"Churning" Kilts

**John_Carrick** · 10th February 14, 12:54 AM

An interesting concept but I have "only" bought 10 so far and did so with a view to keeping them (or wearing them out). I picked each one because they were my clan tartans, or because I really liked them, some were expensive and some very cheap, but they all met a want (I hesitate to say need). While they still fit or have the potential to expand with my waistline, I would hate to sell any of them.
They generally get worn but I have not plucked up courage to set off around Ireland in Loud McLeod yet.

**English Bloke** · 10th February 14, 05:45 AM

With the imminent arrival of the "Australian", I'll be at 40 Kilts, not counting the half dozen I've given away to enthusiastic and deserving folk. All my kilts get worn at some point, but I have noticed that with that many, some are worn more frequently than others and there are kilts in my collection that I'm not as enthused about as when I first got them.

To date I've been of the mind that it's as much about the having as in the wearing but I think Ron has a point, it's a shame to leave them hanging rather than swishing. I think it may be time for a cull in my wardrobe too. Bring it down to a non cage rattling assembly of Family and universals.

**BCAC** · 10th February 14, 07:47 AM

Ron, if only you where the same size as me! I'd snap your hand off for the Dutch Friendship and the Antarctic. Oh well. Hope they go to a good home!

**McClef** · 10th February 14, 08:09 AM

Please keep comments abut articles actually for sale to that actual forum.

This thread is about churning kilts in general.

Thanks.

**BCAC** · 10th February 14, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by McClef

Please keep comments abut articles actually for sale to that actual forum.

This thread is about churning kilts in general.

Thanks.

But Trefor, commenting about kilts for sale, if we are not buying them but want to comment anyway, is not allowed on the for sale forum. Are we to understand that it is not allowed to comment (on something that's for sale) at all? Threads frequently go "off topic" without being commented on by a mod.

**McClef** · 10th February 14, 09:51 AM

It might appear Catch 22 but then advertising personally owned items is a privilege and not a right and the provisions regarding them are strictly defined. If willy nilly ads were to be allowed wherever the vendor wished to place them this would defeat the point of having a special area where they can all be found and it is of no benefit to the vendor, or to anyone else for that matter, being told why one cannot buy it. That is also the correct place to ask the vendor questions. Unless it is all kept in the right place then transactions, questions and permitted comments will end up in this thread instead.

Mods indeed try to comment as little as possible but sometimes when we see a potential problem we fire a friendly shot across the bows when we see one and even then we don't do it without due thought and consideration. We cannot read every single post that is added every day and we rely upon the flagging system to bring anything we might have missed to our attention. We then take all the necessary action outlined in the FAQS.

Ron mentioned that he was selling some of his kilts and didn't specifically say where but nobody asked where he might be selling them, they knew where to look. The rest of the post is about selling some kilts in order to buy more as a concept and the practicalities of that.

Easier to prevent than undo.

**English Bloke** · 10th February 14, 12:26 PM

I started it by pointing out one particular kilt. I had no idea it would contravene a rule. It hadn't occurred to me that by linking certain kilts offered for sale in a section of this website, by an individual member of this website, to a post by the same individual about selling off his kilts to other members might cause anyone a headache.

The fact it is against the rules I find quite baffling... nay ludicrous... nay, absolute TOSH! Sorry Trefor, but if we're not even allowed to discuss kilts on a kilt forum, perhaps this other moderator's advice is the better course...

Originally Posted by CDNSushi

... Understandably, there's only so many threads about hose colour you can read before you go batty, so I do get it when people want to start talking about other things. And if you've "outgrown" XMarks in that you feel like there's nothing left to talk about that's ON-topic, then perhaps that's a good cue to find a fresh pasture to graze. Take a break. Check out some other fora...

Nicely put Jim. I take it that means 'Shut up or ship out'.

By the way, You should see my new socks, bloomin' marvelous they are!!

They are white and I only wear them pulled up and then, only after 6 o'clock.

**English Bloke** · 10th February 14, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by McClef

... Easier to prevent than undo...

Indeed. It probably is. And there lies the problem.

**McClef** · 10th February 14, 01:16 PM

Nowhere have I stated that you cannot discuss kilts in a kilt forum John, that is a very strange take upon what I wrote.

I made a simple and, in my view, very reasonable request, to folk to keep upon the actual topic and when talking about the For Sale section did not specify any particular item whatsoever - other items besides kilts are offered for sale there, even socks.

I did not single out any post nor crticise any individual for their contribution that made reference to what Ron had placed in For Sale but I could see the dangers of inter forum postings and confusion if it developed. I have the main Moderator responsibility for the For Sale section and thus approached it from that point of view.

I am sorry if it's not popular and well aware that you cannot please everybody all of the time but I have a job to do. As does CDNSushi, (the context of his quote that you cite is not given). We both give many hours, unpaid, for the well being of X Marks. We don't expect praise but nor do we expect to be attacked for everything we do or something, however apposite to the context in which they were written. I don't even read the quote as you do - looking at the chaos and anarchy and destructiveness of other fora might well show how good this one is in comparison. I don't see it as an invite to leave and indeed we don't like to see this happen.

And we take no official position upon socks or their colour, we leave that to others.

**English Bloke** · 10th February 14, 01:43 PM

I'm not attacking you or anyone else Trefor, just expressing some exasperation. Perhaps the use of the word TOSH was ill-considered. For that I apologise but it is a term I would likely have used if we were in discussion, face to face in a pub...

And your (and others) unpaid efforts as moderators are also appreciated but sometimes the restrictions imposed are difficult to see from the moderators perspective.

Don't take what I say personally mate. If I gave an impression I was slighting you that was not my intent. I was merely posing a differing point of view. And my reference to Jim's quote was to add emphasis to the inferred XMarks line that this site runs best through unanimous mutual agreement. In fact disagreement is invariably viewed as confrontational here. I don't believe it is but there you go...

Once again. No offence intended.