Hey, America - Happy 4th of July from Canada

[ASinclair]

Hey guys, this is your day. Enjoy, and may you all be well! Attachment 19964

Thanks, cousin.

[plaid preacher]

Though I am a proud Canadian I always look forward to the 4th of July. I work for an American company and report to an American boss. It will be a quiet morning in the office and I might just slip down to the lake early and get in some fishing this afternoon .

Happy Independence Day!

Singlemalt, sounds like you have your own sort of "independence day" planned.

Best wishes to our American cousins. Hope you have a great celebration.

[James Hood]

Happy Independence Day to all.

To all who Served, thank you, eternally.

Who on earth in 1776 could have even in their wildest fantasies, envisioned 1976's United States Of America?!

[Orionson]

[QUOTE=Father Bill;1242577]Hey guys, this is your day. Enjoy, and may you all be well! Attachment 19964[/QUOTE

Apropos, Father. Begs the question for me however, as to why we are permitted to post about the American Declaration of Independence - a document Historians agree was heavily influenced in ethos and content by King Robert I's 1320 Declaration of Arbroath and the contemporary writings of the Philosophers and Thinkers of the Scottish Enlightenment - yet we are forbidden from even mentioning anything regarding Scotland's own impending monumental decision.

Hand on heart, this is not a deliberate "cat amongst the pigeons" post - but a genuine conundrum which puzzles me.

Happy 4th of July!

[KentuckyCeltophile]

Seriously, Kentucky Celt?! Really?!
Scots ARE British, first off, and secondly, your post was ignorant and absolutely offensive on a number of levels.

Ok, let me review. The US was under British rule and we decided to kick them out. That was a long time ago. Thus, the reason for celebrating the 4th of July. The UK still sour about that?? Probably not after 238 years. Canada is an independent country formerly under crown rule. We both have a great commradery and have much in common. Thus, the reason for my statement. Furthermore, who wouldn't want to be Scottish. If I made a mistake it was using the word British, which is so often used synonamously for English here in the States (Britain=the island). So, sorry about that. THEN, I used a "winking smiley" which makes it all okay.

Seriously, my comment was posted in the same tongue and cheek fashion as the post with the statement about the Scots "having mixed emotions about global warming because they can sit on the mountains and watch the English drown". Seriously, dude. Lighten up and have another beer.

[TheOfficialBren]

Ok, let me review. The US was under British rule and we decided to kick them out. That was a long time ago. Thus, the reason for celebrating the 4th of July. The UK still sour about that?? Probably not after 238 years. Canada is an independent country formerly under crown rule. We both have a great commradery and have much in common. Thus, the reason for my statement. Furthermore, who wouldn't want to be Scottish. If I made a mistake it was using the word British, which is so often used synonamously for English here in the States (Britain=the island). So, sorry about that. THEN, I used a "winking smiley" which makes it all okay.

Seriously, my comment was posted in the same tongue and cheek fashion as the post with the statement about the Scots "having mixed emotions about global warming because they can sit on the mountains and watch the English drown". Seriously, dude. Lighten up and have another beer.

Ah. Gotcha. I probably shouldn't have assumed that everyone in the board knows the difference between British and English.

I found your post offensice because it sounded like English-bashing, to be honest. Many of our members are from England and it kind of read like you were playing up the old conflicts, as many do here.

Yes, we did gain independence from Britain, as did Canada and many other portions of the Empire but our story is unique in that it was done with bloodshed rather than filing the appropriate paperwork at Westminster (as in Canada's case).

I need no review and I may be misinterpreting your post but it sounds a bit condescending to be honest. I recall having a post flagged and being chided by a moderator in the past for basically taking the same sort of tone (albeit a different subject) and using an emoticon with the post. In no uncertain terms I was told (Steve, actually, is the person who came down on me) that an emoticon is not carte blanche to make a post and hide behind.

[SeumasA]

Back on topic: Thanks Father Bill. We may have had our differences over the years, but we've had no better allies than our neighbors to the north, and our other cousins throughout the Commonwealth.

[Father Bill]

[QUOTE=Orionson;1242669]

Hey guys, this is your day. Enjoy, and may you all be well! Attachment 19964[/QUOTE

Apropos, Father. Begs the question for me however, as to why we are permitted to post about the American Declaration of Independence - a document Historians agree was heavily influenced in ethos and content by King Robert I's 1320 Declaration of Arbroath and the contemporary writings of the Philosophers and Thinkers of the Scottish Enlightenment - yet we are forbidden from even mentioning anything regarding Scotland's own impending monumental decision.

Hand on heart, this is not a deliberate "cat amongst the pigeons" post - but a genuine conundrum which puzzles me.

Happy 4th of July!

One is history, the other is contemporary contention. You figure it out!

[Half Scot Half Pole]

Thanks and God bless, Father Bill, not all down here even remember the first Revolution.

I used to bring Marlboros up your way back in my music days, very good way to make friends and find out where the best steak was to be had.

[Orionson]

[QUOTE=Father Bill;1242964][QUOTE=Orionson;1242669]

One is history, the other is contemporary contention. You figure it out! [/QUOT

Sorry, Father - but with the greatest respect - to comparatively describe what is happening in Scotland today as mere "contemporary contention" diminishes both what happened in the historical American Colonies in the 1770's and what is happening in today's Scotland. What is happening here in Scotland today IS history. There is virtually no difference between America in 1776 and Scotland, apart from the fact that we are resolving our differences peacefully and democratically without force of arms and bloodshed.

I am an historian who's maternal grandfathers emigrated to Windsor Connecticut in 1635 and first served in the Pequot Wars and then subsequently with Roger's Rangers in the F&I Wars and at the Battle of Concord Bridge, Valley Forge and Yorktown, the War of 1812, and Bull Run, Antietam, Gettysburg and Appomattox. I fight today - peacefully - in the same spirit and vigour for the independence of Scotland.

With the greatest respect, please do not diminish what is happening here - regardless of which side of the fence you may be sitting on.