Do any of the weathered tartans have official clan recognition?

[OC Richard]

Am I misremembering, or did I read somewhere that Dalgliesh's "reproduction" colours were inspired by the brown plaid clothing found in peat bogs?

[figheadair]

Am I misremembering, or did I read somewhere that Dalgleish's "reproduction" colours were inspired by the brown plaid clothing found in peat bogs?

Richard,

As you know, the term 'Reproduction' is restricted to those patterns produced by D.C. Dalgliesh Ltd, Selkirk, who were the originators of this range. The story surrounding the origin of these colours is very romantic but quite false. The story has it that a piece of tartan was dug up in the 1950s at the Culloden battlefield and after 200 years buried in the peat, the colours had become very drab, hence the term 'weathered' by some manufacturers.

Unfortunately Kenny Dalgliesh declined to answer questions concerning the shade's origins and it is perhaps significant that there appears to be no record of the 'original specimen'. Given the historical importance of such an artefact it is not unreasonable to expect it to have been examined, the claims verified by an independent observer and the specimen preserved.

I’m therefore of the opinion that the story is an invention designed to sell more cloth.

[Jock Scot]

Richard,

As you know, the term 'Reproduction' is restricted to those patterns produced by D.C. Dalgliesh Ltd, Selkirk, who were the originators of this range. The story surrounding the origin of these colours is very romantic but quite false. The story has it that a piece of tartan was dug up in the 1950s at the Culloden battlefield and after 200 years buried in the peat, the colours had become very drab, hence the term 'weathered' by some manufacturers.

Unfortunately Kenny Dalgliesh declined to answer questions concerning the shade's origins and it is perhaps significant that there appears to be no record of the 'original specimen'. Given the historical importance of such an artefact it is not unreasonable to expect it to have been examined, the claims verified by an independent observer and the specimen preserved.

I’m therefore of the opinion that the story is an invention designed to sell more cloth.

Why is it I am not surprised?

[Reiver]

Question for those in the know.

How do the 'Hunting' tartans fit in the mix? Are they simply another form of weathered or is there a unique distinction?

[davidlpope]

Question for those in the know.

How do the 'Hunting' tartans fit in the mix? Are they simply another form of weathered or is there a unique distinction?

A hunting tartan is a completely different tartan, not the same tartan woven in different shades of the same colors.

[Reiver]

A hunting tartan is a completely different tartan, not the same tartan woven in different shades of the same colors.

I do not think you are correct in that, although I am far from an expert....but my Hunting Scott (modern) has the same sett and colors as my Scott Red Modern only of a different muted shade.

[davidlpope]

I do not think you are correct in that, although I am far from an expert....but my Hunting Scott (modern) has the same sett and colors as my Scott Red Modern only of a different muted shade.

Pull both kilts out and try to match up the setts by their color sequence. The Hunting Scott has lots of brown and a single red stripe in the brown field. The Red Scott doesn't have brown and has a triple black-green-black stripe in the red field. Two different tartans.

[Reiver]

Pull both kilts out and try to match up the setts by their color sequence. The Hunting Scott has lots of brown and a single red stripe in the brown field. The Red Scott doesn't have brown and has a triple black-green-black stripe in the red field. Two different tartans.

I couldn't do that as I gave my brother the Red modern...altho, I went to the registry and did note the difference...it is slight, but is there.
It fooled me as they are so close.
Interesting as I always believed it to be simply muted. Thanks.

[davidlpope]

I couldn't do that as I gave my brother the Red modern...altho, I went to the registry and did note the difference...it is slight, but is there.
It fooled me as they are so close.
Interesting as I always believed it to be simply muted. Thanks.

Here's a side by side comparison of the two tartans. You'll notice that the Hunting tartan has brown, whereas the regular Scott tartan has none. Also the single red vs. black-green-black lines. If the Hunting Scott was merely a muted version of the regular, then all the red would appear as brown, rather than both brown and red being used.

[Reiver]

Sorry for the thread diversion gents.
Dave, pics didn't come thru but I've noted the dif. in a few pics.
Not very observant am I