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14th September 16, 07:04 AM
#11
My consistent reply to the question is "There are only three persons who know the answer to that question, me, my wife, and God, and that's the way it's going to stay." I may joke and talk about the cute answers among friends, but with a stranger, I give the above response, firmly but politely. Never had anybody push the issue. Many times, folks will move to asking about kilts and underwear as a general topic, as opposed to a personal one, and that I am willing to discuss.
Geoff Withnell
"My comrades, they did never yield, for courage knows no bounds."
No longer subject to reveille US Marine.
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14th September 16, 07:07 AM
#12
I've had the same question and on occasions WHS (wandering hand syndrom) over the years. My reply is dependent on the questioner. Always smile, it never fails.
Once, at a cocktail party in the US a woman approached me, gently squeezed my highland purse and said "what do you keep in your scrotum". Oh, everthing of value I replied.
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14th September 16, 10:46 PM
#13
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Father Bill
I think the reason some women in some situations think it's okay is simply and at least in part from two factors.
First is the fact that men have not historically been sexualized in western culture to the extent that women have, so that the exposure of our privates is often considered less shocking than that of a woman's.
Secondly, society, including we ourselves, has maintained a great mystique about what is or is not worn beneath the kilt, such that it becomes a socially interesting and tittilating question.
As a coda on your first two points Father Bill, I'd also posit that men culturally don't have the history/experience of physical assault from women, as women still experience from men even in areas with a more enlightened/liberal cultural approach to gender relations. That being said, as a proponent of any number of elements for gender equality, it's discouraging when I interact with a woman who doesn't decry the double-standards, so much as want to be the one on the 'winning' side. Bad behavior and sexual harassment are the same no matter what your plumbing.
McVeigh Sept of Clan MacLean
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15th September 16, 06:14 AM
#14
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by English Bloke
I asked the woman why she felt it appropriate to help herself to my very personal space. She replied that I was only wearing the kilt to draw attention to myself and it's probably what I wanted her to do...
An interesting view-point. I do wonder sometimes how long I'd keep my liberty if I were to employ the same forward curiosity towards women as they do to me and used the line "She was wearing a skirt so she obviously wanted me to" as my defence.
Oh, it's been done, no worries. Many times. Often with success.
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Mair's the pity!
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16th September 16, 02:20 PM
#15
As a woman, those women that do that is very wrong..yes If a man were to ask that he would probably get smacked or worse. I think it's out of curiosity and possibly flirting BUT AT NO POINT IS IT RIGHT.. Some people are just that way..How you react is on you..But if a woman is gonna be that bold to ask, then she deserves a bold answer. ..it can be a double standard but it can go Both ways too..I apologize from the female side, but as you all know we are not the same..Sorry some woman make the female race not so nice at times..Males too ..Angie
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16th September 16, 08:18 PM
#16
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Willie T
...... What happened next was so out of character for her so she must have been very, very drunk. She began teasing my Highland Drum Major teacher and asked him if he was wearing anything under his kilt.......
In vino, veritas. Drunk people do not act out of character, they act in a lack of inhibition. She was showing her true character.
Ruadh gu brath!
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17th September 16, 03:44 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Angela Kaye Bodine
..I apologize from the female side, but as you all know we are not the same..Sorry some woman make the female race not so nice at times..Males too ..Angie
I would like to remind Angie and all the ladies of the Rabble, you are not responsible for the actions of women that misbehave. An apology from you (appreciated and accepted for its honorable merit) regarding the bad behavior voiced in this thread is moot. However, pass me by while I'm kilted and not engage me with some pleasantry (smiles are enough most times) seems rude or I suspect that (as some say), "your barn door is open" or I have made a blatant faux pas with my kit.
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17th September 16, 05:58 PM
#18
I haven't had too many issues with this when I wear my kilt except for when I've worn it to work . I work in the public eye & when I wore it on Halloween (cause that's the only day I could get away with it) I swear 50 strangers asked me if I was wearing underwear , 40 being men . I guess they figure that I'm on the job so I have to take their crap but if I walked to a customer & asked them about their underroos I'd be so fired !
veritas aequitas
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17th September 16, 08:34 PM
#19
Some years back when I was wearing kilts to work (a mental health agency), a fellow therapist - and out lesbian - stopped me in the hallway of the agency and asked, "How do you take a s--t in that thing?" I was floored. My response was, "If I asked you the same question I'd be fired and lose my license to practice." Her eyes got huge and she left and never again commented. Ironically, she was one of the few women at the agency who regularly wore skirts. Maybe she was jealous.
The only time anyone has gone hands on with me was at Pride in the Pines in Flagstaff some years ago. A young college age guy, very intoxicated, mumbled something along the lines of "the question" and ran his hand up my kilt. He had to bend over to do it so I just spun away from him and he crashed face first onto the sidewalk. He was laying on the sidewalk, quite content to be stabilized, when I walked away.
As far as booze releasing the true character, I disagree. Many years of hard boozing myself and the last 25 years as an addictions counselor have taught me that booze makes humans crazy and stupid, but what they do intoxicated is no more them than if you got a dog, or a sheep, or a pig drunk. The animal will do stupid things before it passes out, but the animal's drunken behavior is not the true character of the animal. Our true character comes out when we're sober. The bizarre insanity happens when we're drunk....but its the chemical effect of alcohol on the human brain, not our true character.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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18th September 16, 06:20 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Some years back when I was wearing kilts to work (a mental health agency), a fellow therapist - and out lesbian - stopped me in the hallway of the agency and asked, "How do you take a s--t in that thing?" I was floored. My response was, "If I asked you the same question I'd be fired and lose my license to practice." Her eyes got huge and she left and never again commented. Ironically, she was one of the few women at the agency who regularly wore skirts. Maybe she was jealous.
The only time anyone has gone hands on with me was at Pride in the Pines in Flagstaff some years ago. A young college age guy, very intoxicated, mumbled something along the lines of "the question" and ran his hand up my kilt. He had to bend over to do it so I just spun away from him and he crashed face first onto the sidewalk. He was laying on the sidewalk, quite content to be stabilized, when I walked away.
Could it be that she was just curious and unfamiliar with the kilt? There are so many styles of dresses and skirts that each present a challenge in the bathroom stall. I was just having this discussion the other day with my wife when we saw a lovely bride enter the restaurant. A long gown presents it's own difficulties and she cannot possibly go to the bathroom without help from her attendants. Guys generally have it much easier.
"The fun of a kilt is to walk, not to sit"
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