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13th June 07, 09:36 AM
#1
OK Maybe I was a bit too abrupt.
The uniform is one of the methods of Scouting and wearing one shows your scouting spirit. The attitude of:
"when I do get Eagle (sometime in July) I will be there kilted, I don't care. and I grew out of my scout pants, they are way to expensive to replace too."
is absolutely wrong for an Eagle Scout. An Eagle Scout Badge is not an end it is a beginning and those of us who worked hard for our Eagle badges are proud of them and would help anyone else wanting to succeed.
I am not knocking the kilt it is great with a class B uniform (which is a stretch but so is a class B uniform). I have worn a kilt with class A but I purchased the correct Scottish uniform shirt, got appropriate patches and followed the Scottish uniform standards.
The Pictures of Kilted Scouts are Scottish Scouts at international events not BSA scouts.
I hope you do well on your Eagle Board, and I hope you can have a sense of pride about your accomplishments. I just don't want you to have problems. Believe me failing a boy at his Eagle Board is not fun for anyone.
Mark Keeney
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13th June 07, 11:28 AM
#2
Maybe it's me. I think when the rules are not in print and the general guidelines are gray at best, then almost anything that is not an affront to good taste is probably acceptable.
The clan tartan could clash, "Oh, No." Maybe it's the first troop member to wear the kilt! "EEEK!"
At the very least The Scout Motto "Be prepared" holds true in not only physical tooling but in tolerance. attitude, acceptance of new ideas and all the et cetera's.
Go, have fun, don't work at, make it fun! Kilt them, for they know not, what they wear. Where am I now?
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13th June 07, 01:54 PM
#3
The thing is it is not grey. Uniforming policy is printed clearly in black and white.
If I remember correctly Irish troops can wear the saffron kilt and Scottish troops may wear their tartan. But that is not Boy Scouts of America.
I am not attacking the boy. I am just trying to guide him in my clumsy way.
I appologise if I offended anyone.
I don't think this is appropriate for the forum so this is my last post.
Last edited by Mark Keeney; 13th June 07 at 01:57 PM.
Reason: second thoughts
Mark Keeney
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13th June 07, 02:40 PM
#4
As a former Scout - I only made it as far as Life - I kind of agree with the majority in saying that kilting is fine for class "B" uniform, and for functional scouting (ie: events, high adventure, camping, camporee, etc.) I don't really think that it's appropriate for an eagle board of review. To me, that is a uniform event. Wear the kilt with the uniform with pride, but this once, I think you're safer bet is your class "A" uniform.
Good luck with your BOR, and like Nick said, make sure and post how it went!
[b][SIZE=2] In Soviet Russia, kilt wears you.
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13th June 07, 08:08 PM
#5
Thanks all on the advice. I did read through the book on uniforms.
Thanks for all the direction pointing, and to answer some statements on the 2nd page, the biggest problems at my meetings, is, I am the only one who has ever done this. I am probably the only one they have ever seen in a kilt.
now, I think that it would be a wise thing to say enough with the non-sense of this "argument".
so as a closer to this I would like to say;
thanks for all the encouragement for my BOR
And
The project details:
I am a senior in highschool, the elementary school I went to is almost 70 years old. They do no upkeep. (which is a shame because it is a nice school) but I rebuilt the court yard. I built a new storage shed, one that wouldn't rust and fall in on its self. and I just did some general landscaping.
and since this is the picture forum, I think it might be ok to post some pics of my project.
Before:






After:




well those really aren't after pics, I don't have those on the net, but they are the pics from the work days. and yes, I finished the shed in a SOLID color. ;)
~Casey
[SIZE="1"]"It's the job thats never started that takes the longest to finish. Thats what my old Gaffer used to say." - Samwise Gamgie, J.R.R. Tolkein[/SIZE]
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13th June 07, 09:27 PM
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OK I said I wasn't going to post any more but this is different.
That looks like a terrific project. You should be proud!
Mark Keeney
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14th June 07, 11:46 AM
#7
Only posting to say I sit on our district Eagle BOR Committee. Most if not all districts in our council have written policy on what a Scout can and can't have for his BOR. One of the top 5 things
Scouts appearing for their Eagle BOR must wear a complete Dress Uniform (formerly known as the Class "A") meeting the requirements of BSA Publication 34283A available for download in PDF format from scouting.org
For Activity uniforms (formerly known as Class "B") kilts are great!
Hope that helps. As others have said, check on it before you wear it. We have turned Scouts away from their Boards for wearing jeans or flip-flops.
Good Luck! From the look of the project you've earned it.
-Gordon McKenzie
Eagle Scout 01-21-1997
Lifetime National Eagle Scout Association member.
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16th June 07, 08:49 AM
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Wow that is one great project, you should be very proud indeed, and good luck with the Board of Review.
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