What does the "dicing" mean?

[Nervous Jock]

From what Jock said in his post above--that is, that in his part of Scotland dicing = support for the UK government, no dicing = opposition to the UK--- the historical accuracy of this story would seem to be approaching irrelevancy.

Blackwatch, no dicing?????

[macwilkin]

Blackwatch, no dicing?????

Exactly. If the RHR, the oldest Highland regiment in the British Army, wore diced headgear, then it might be a little more believable.

I suppose it's the fact that I reside in the "show-me" state.

Todd

[MacWage]

I am wondering if Gilmore's post is in reference to the present Scottish independence movement. However, THAT is politics. So, I'll stay out of that.

It is interesting how romantic stories get added and then embellished to explain stuff that has NOTHING to do with the story.

So, now it has come up, where do you (anyone) have documented proof for the ORIGINS and IMPLEMENTATION of the checked band on bonnets?

[macwilkin]

I am wondering if Gilmore's post is in reference to the present Scottish independence movement. However, THAT is politics. So, I'll stay out of that.

It is interesting how romantic stories get added and then embellished to explain stuff that has NOTHING to do with the story.

So, now it has come up, where do you (anyone) have documented proof for the ORIGINS and IMPLEMENTATION of the checked band on bonnets?

John,

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

See my earlier post about historian Stuart Reid's thoughts on dicing in his book, 18th Century Highlanders.

Todd

[Jock Scot]

I have spoken to 10 people(plus me) about the meaning of the dicing on civilian bonnets.One(me)wear a diced bonnet.Why?Because I always have.The other 10 wear undiced bonnets.Why?Because they always have!Not very helpful.

We are all aware of some sort of pro/anti Crown/government meaning,but none of us can pin it down to anything specific.Most of us think it harks back to the Hanovarian time.Certainly nothing to do with the present Queen or her government.

[MacWage]

I have spoken to 10 people(plus me) about the meaning of the dicing on civilian bonnets.One(me)wear a diced bonnet.Why?Because I always have.The other 10 wear undiced bonnets.Why?Because they always have!Not very helpful.

We are all aware of some sort of pro/anti Crown/government meaning,but none of us can pin it down to anything specific.Most of us think it harks back to the Hanovarian time.Certainly nothing to do with the present Queen or her government.

What about a diced bonnet with a white cockade?
Or is that just "not done?"

[Jock Scot]

The white cockade,I think,is for the historical type people.I have never seen it worn on a bonnet for day to day wear,which, when all said and done,is only worn by very few people anyway.Highland games for example.

[Jock Scot]

The white cockade,I think,is for the historical type people.I have never seen it worn on a bonnet for day to day wear,which, when all said and done,is only worn by very few people anyway.Highland games for example.

I think I ought to clarify my last statement.The term bonnet,in our way of thinking,is used as a general description for a hat.It seems to me that many of you regard a bonnet as a term for a Glengarry or Balmoral only.

[MacWage]

I think I ought to clarify my last statement.The term bonnet,in our way of thinking,is used as a general description for a hat.It seems to me that many of you regard a bonnet as a term for a Glengarry or Balmoral only.

When I read a Scot's comments, I always take both meanings into mind. To most non-Scots, it means "Scottish-specific headwear."
Now, I HAVE seen white cockades on army helmets and ball caps too.

Now, a CHECKED ball cap would be interesting . . .

[Jock Scot]

Hummmmm.