Matt Newsome Ulster Red Box Pleat

[James MacMillan]

Looks great Glen........

[McMurdo]

Looks great. Do you wear your kilt to Scottish Country? I am taking lessons and find it both a good mental exercise ( no calling like square dancing ) and good for the legs as well.

I wear a kilt every day, so yes I wear one Scottish Country Dancing.

Boy Oh Boy Glen - that is one beautiful kilt! Matt has really done a fine job showing this tartan to its best effect - front and back. Of course a kilted veteran like yourself really knows how to make it look like a million bucks.

Thanks Phil, just about everything I learned about kilt wearing I learned right here from kilted veterans like you.

[Bob C]

It's strange, seeing that kilt on someone other than Brian. Looks great with that ensemble, Glen.

Maybe the Twin Tiers Kilt Club and the SOKS should meet in the middle, somewhere like Rochester, so Brian can visit his old kilt and we can all have a good time.

[McMurdo]

That would be great Bob, I'd love to do something like that.

[Jack Daw]

That is a cool tartan, McM. I'm intrigued by the box-pleats and am glad you posted the detail on that because I'm thinking of getting one from Kathy Lare. I've seen only one other kilt that was box-pleated and that was a Cameron of Erracht military issue that a piper buddy of mine purchased at a surplus store in Scotland. Maybe I recall incorrectly, but I thought the pleats on that one were narrower than in yours. My buddy eventually sold it and I could have strangled him for not considering a sale to me.

Can box-pleats be created in different widths??

[McMurdo]

Jack
I'm sure that a military box pleat has thinner and more numerous pleats than mine.

[Jack Daw]

McM, I'm not saying I have a preference. I think your kilt looks great; and, I think it's cool to have a choice. But, in this case, I just didn't know that there was one. Still, my memory may be playing tricks on me.

[McMurdo]

McM, I'm not saying I have a preference. I think your kilt looks great; and, I think it's cool to have a choice. But, in this case, I just didn't know that there was one. Still, my memory may be playing tricks on me.

No worries Mate, I was just trying to answer your question they do come with thinner pleats, however they are two different types of kilt, as the one pictured here is a 4 yard kilt and I'm sure the military box pleated kilts are made with more yardage, a good example of a Military box pleat can be found at www.whatpriceglory.com/scot.htm

[M. A. C. Newsome]

That is a cool tartan, McM. I'm intrigued by the box-pleats and am glad you posted the detail on that because I'm thinking of getting one from Kathy Lare. I've seen only one other kilt that was box-pleated and that was a Cameron of Erracht military issue that a piper buddy of mine purchased at a surplus store in Scotland. Maybe I recall incorrectly, but I thought the pleats on that one were narrower than in yours. My buddy eventually sold it and I could have strangled him for not considering a sale to me.

Can box-pleats be created in different widths??

What you saw was a modern military box pleat, which is essentially a knife pleat with the end turned over. It uses the same amount of cloth as a standard modern kilt (about 8), with lots of little narrow pleats. One end of the "box" will be a very shallow pleat (about the depth of the pleat reveal), and the other will be very deep, like a knife pleat.

The box pleated kilts I make are modelled after the historic box pleated kilts c. 1790 to the mid-1800s, and require only about 4 yards of cloth. They are "true" box pleats in that the pleat depth is about 1/2 of the visible pleat reveal, and there is little to no overlap inside the pleat. These pleats are much wider. So, for instance, if your pleat is 3" wide, each side of the "box" will be pleated to a depth of 1.5".

[Jack Daw]

What you saw was a modern military box pleat, which is essentially a knife pleat with the end turned over. It uses the same amount of cloth as a standard modern kilt (about 8), with lots of little narrow pleats. One end of the "box" will be a very shallow pleat (about the depth of the pleat reveal), and the other will be very deep, like a knife pleat.

The box pleated kilts I make are modelled after the historic box pleated kilts c. 1790 to the mid-1800s, and require only about 4 yards of cloth. They are "true" box pleats in that the pleat depth is about 1/2 of the visible pleat reveal, and there is little to no overlap inside the pleat. These pleats are much wider. So, for instance, if your pleat is 3" wide, each side of the "box" will be pleated to a depth of 1.5".

Ah, thanks, Matthew! My guess is that the box-pleats you make are less annoying to press.