Hands Aff Oor Kilts!

[macwilkin]

Thank you P1M,just as I thought.I don't recall people getting too hot under the collar over the examples above,so why should we over the kilt?

I think the concern is for some that legimate overseas kilt makers, such as Burnett & Struth, Barb T., Kathy Lare, Matt Newsome, etc. will somehow be "branded" along with the tartan tat types. Mind you, none of these folks claim to produce a "Scottish kilt" per se, but their quality, attention to detail and respect for the customs and traditions of Highland attire should not be lumped in with the Gold Brothers and their ilk.

T.

[Jock Scot]

I think the concern is for some that legimate overseas kilt makers, such as Burnett & Struth, Barb T., Kathy Lare, Matt Newsome, etc. will somehow be "branded" along with the tartan tat types. Mind you, none of these folks claim to produce a "Scottish kilt" per se, but their quality, attention to detail and respect for the customs and traditions of Highland attire should not be lumped in with the Gold Brothers and their ilk.

T.

I totally agree that the skilled kilt makers that you have mentioned above and without doubt there are many others too, dotted around the world are caught in the crossfire here.I am sure it is not beyond the "wit of man" to come up with a solution to recognise their undoubted skills.As to the the Gold Brothers and their ilk,I make no comment.

[macwilkin]

I totally agree that the skilled kilt makers that you have mentioned above and without doubt there are many others too, dotted around the world are caught in the crossfire here.I am sure it is not beyond the "wit of man" to come up with a solution to recognise their undoubted skills.As to the the Gold Brothers and their ilk,I make no comment.

Aye, Jock.

T.

[Nick]

I think I am right to say that,only whisky produced in Scotland can be called "Scotch whisky".So what is the problem with" Scottish kilts"?Only a thought.

Also, that's not just a copyright, that was an act of Parliament.

[Jack Daw]

I think the concern is for some that legimate overseas kilt makers, such as Burnett & Struth, Barb T., Kathy Lare, Matt Newsome, etc. will somehow be "branded" along with the tartan tat types. Mind you, none of these folks claim to produce a "Scottish kilt" per se, but their quality, attention to detail and respect for the customs and traditions of Highland attire should not be lumped in with the Gold Brothers and their ilk.

T.

I agree fully.

[Pour1Malt]

I totally agree that the skilled kilt makers that you have mentioned above and without doubt there are many others too, dotted around the world are caught in the crossfire here.I am sure it is not beyond the "wit of man" to come up with a solution to recognise their undoubted skills.As to the the Gold Brothers and their ilk,I make no comment.

aye Jock....

Bourbon is a fine drink... but ya wuid ne'er ca' it Scotch!

[macwilkin]

aye Jock....

Bourbon is a fine drink... but ya wuid ne'er ca' it Scotch!

Robertson,

I do hope you're not insinuating that because a Newsome, Lare, etc. kilt is not made in Scotland, it is somehow inferior to one made there. These individuals I mentioned in an earlier post take great pride in the craft, and in the case of Matt, is a font of knowledge in terms of Highland dress.

I do hope this is not your insinuation.

T.

[MacWage]

The article is about protecting "Scottish Kilt," not the term "kilt."

I actually AGREE with Howie on this one.
There needs to be a marked distinction between a tank and what the Gold Brothers sell over the counter on the Royal Mile (which is deceptively tagged as a Scottish Kilt, designed in Scotland).

We can STILL use the term "kilt" all we want and know what it is.

From the article:

If their attempt is successful it would mean that only kilts that were hand sewn, made in Scotland and made from pure wool could be known as a Scottish kilt. Those that did not meet the three criteria would simply have to be known as kilts. Mr Nicholsby, 29, said: "This campaign has come about through years of frustration. I grew tired of seeing poor quality kilts selling in shops on the high street for £20 and calling themselves Scottish kilts.

I can live with the term "Scottish Kilt" meaning: only kilts that were hand sewn, made in Scotland and made from pure wool could be known as a Scottish kilt.

Steve, Matt, and most American/Canadian made kilts would STILL be a "kilt," but would be somewhat distinct from a Scottish Kilt. Matt even tags his now as "Made in America of Scottish Materials" or the like (don't have the actual text or a picture of it at hand).
What "pushes" it are kilts like those made by Barb, Elsie, and Kathy. They are IDENTICAL in all virtually every way except in nation where the hand sewer resides.
I'd be curious as to Barb's take on this article and Howie's idea.
I can see where Howie is coming from and what he trying to "protect."
How does that affect Bard's creations? I'll have to ask her . . .

[McClef]

I can see problems with the three criteria in any case.

Is a kilt that is machine sewn in Scotland any less Scottish because of that one factor, even if it meets the other two?

What of a kilt that is hand sewn in Scotland that may have been woven by a mill outside of Scotland but still in the UK yet still out of pure wool?

What of a kilt that has been hand sewn elsewhere from pure wool material woven in Scotland by skilled kiltmakers as have been mentioned above?

As they say, "two out of three 'aint bad" and as we know, Gold Bros can't even manage one out of three!

[Pour1Malt]

Robertson,

I do hope you're not insinuating that because a Newsome, Lare, etc. kilt is not made in Scotland, it is somehow inferior to one made there. These individuals I mentioned in an earlier post take great pride in the craft, and in the case of Matt, is a font of knowledge in terms of Highland dress.

I do hope this is not your insinuation.

T.

sorry Caj... ai dinnae insinuate....

ai say whit ai mean....

Newsome an' Lare mak fine kilts... (frae whit ai am told- ai dinnae own their kilts)

but they dinnae mak Scottish kilts...

if ai reverse whit ai said will it mak it clearer?

Scotch is a fine drink.... but ya wuid nae ca' it Bourbon.....