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31st March 08, 08:14 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by MuffinMan
Dirk, Mountain Hardware in a top notch outdoors outfitter, I have one of their packbacking tents and it is a rock. I am surprized they would put their name a product like this, its just doesn't fit with their reputation.
MM
Can you say EDSEL?
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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1st April 08, 05:53 PM
#2
I have one of these Mountain Kilts in my 'Kollection' - it was a gift (but I never wear it!!!!)
Take care,
Ham.
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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1st April 08, 07:02 PM
#3
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Saol fada aqus...rath ort[/FONT]
"Live long and prosper"
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1st April 08, 07:51 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by RCallan
That is a skirt.
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1st April 08, 09:21 PM
#5
It is interesting that the ad in the first post says specifically that it has no rear pleats.
I would find that a bit difficult as I have a very long stride. ( a way to keep up with regular people as I have short legs). I am quite pleased with the pleats on my new USA Kilt for that reason. I like when they fall nicely back into place after being heavily "swished" during a long walk. I find that some of my "contemporary" kilts have such shallow pleating that after only a short walk they are all in a dither, and look like I tied them in a knot.
I was unkilted for a while after outgrowing my ancient tank. When I took up being kilted again, I was lucky enough to have a female friend work with me on the walking, sitting, getting up stuff. We have helped each other over the years as our body shapes have required fashion adjustments.
She was very helpful after an industrial accident left my left knee in a very large brace and wrap. The breakaway athletic pants would get caught on the brace and self break away, leading to potentially embarrassing moments. She loaned me a wrap just above the knee skirt that worked well as my stride was shortened while on crutches, and as I waited for a kilt that I had ordered. (Long before Jerry's super service) I got plenty of ribbing by some of my companions. After some of them experienced the winter sport injuries (Skiing) their ribbing ended quickly. Several of them wound up borrowing my skirt, or my kilt while recuperating. The day came when one of the biggest unrelenting teasers about the skirt/kilt wearing got a leg injury in a motor vehicle accident. After he had suffered through two days of wardrobe "malfunctions", he came to me begging for the kilt. He ate large quantities of crow wearing the skirt - I wasn't about to let him have the kilt that easily. The rest of the work crew gave him plenty - for aggravating them while they were in casts on crutches. Five of them had ordered matching tartan kilts to the tartan I was wearing. The day after he started wearing trousers again, the rest of the work crew showed up every day in matching kilts.
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10th April 08, 03:39 PM
#6
Can't be a man without them pleats eh?
I have one. Quality is very good. Stride is not a problem at all. It's cool and breezy - just what you need on a hot sweaty hike. Yes it's a skirt. So is a kilt. (Get over it)
I'm surprised and a little disappointed that folks who have never seen or tried this item would make such unfounded disparaging pronouncements about it. Sounds quite disingenuous to me.
This item will never replace a kilt, and it is not meant to. It is however a very comfortable garment for the back yard, backpacking, and long car trips.
Take my word for it. I own one.
Cheers,
Rick
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11th April 08, 07:22 AM
#7
I maybe starting something, but I agree with Rick, do we wear kilts because of the Pleats? If it has only 5 pleats does that make it a "girls" and you are a crossdresser? Everyone is acting like people we can't stand judging something based on preconceived notions. This thought process should include all kilts that is not 1. wool 2. no Tartan.
WE WEAR IT CUZ IT FEELS GOOD.
please don't look under kilt while I'm on the soapbox. 
MM
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11th April 08, 07:35 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by MuffinMan
I maybe starting something, but I agree with Rick, do we wear kilts because of the Pleats? If it has only 5 pleats does that make it a "girls" and you are a crossdresser? Everyone is acting like people we can't stand judging something based on preconceived notions. This thought process should include all kilts that is not 1. wool 2. no Tartan.
WE WEAR IT CUZ IT FEELS GOOD.
please don't look under kilt while I'm on the soapbox.
MM
MuffinMan that knocking you hear at your door are the kilt police. They have a warrant for your arrest and the confiscation of all kilt and kilt related items. don't you know that to be a kilt it MUST be 16oz or greater wool, hand sewn, 20 or greater pleats, be rib cage high, and not go below the middle of your knee. In addition unless you can prove that you have direct linage to the current clan Chief you can not wear the tartan.
Don't you read the instructions manual that came with your kilt.
Hands against the wall - you know the position.
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11th April 08, 08:13 AM
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According to the OED(Oxford English Dictionary), the noun derives from a verb to kilt, originally meaning "to gird up; to tuck up (the skirts) round the body", itself of Scandinavian origin.
now...where in this original definition does it state a single thing about pleats.
I have also found this:
kilt
–noun
1. any short, pleated skirt, esp. a tartan wraparound, as that worn by men in the Scottish Highlands.
–verb (used with object)
2. to draw or tuck up, as the skirt, about oneself.
3. to provide (a skirt) with kilt pleats.
AND
kilt·ed
–adjective
1. wearing a kilt.
2. gathered in pleats; pleated.
In almost every definition(save the first one) the terms pleated, pleats, or pleating are found.
What does this mean? well I guess that by literal definition that is not a kilt!
in other words it means...
Not a bloody thing...if you like it and its comfortable who cares...
I personally prefer pleats. I also prefer knife pleats to box pleats. But thats personal preference.
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11th April 08, 07:32 AM
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