X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 45
  1. #21
    Join Date
    17th December 07
    Location
    Staunton, Va
    Posts
    4,948
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    I Concur

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Well, it is a point of view that I would not altogether disagree with.
    The popular perception of Scottish history is shot through with myth and "myth"-information. Trevor-Roper (Lord Dacre) was that most rare sort of gentleman-- an academic historian without bias. I would suggest that reading his book, rather than relying on inflammatory headlines and out of context quotes, should be the order of the day.

    The statement regarding the "Hitler diaries" is pretty much off the mark-- There is a book on the subject (sorry, can't remember the title) that casts T-R's authentication of the diaries in a significantly different light. T-R had numerous reservations about the diaries, which the Sunday Time chose to ignore in their publicity campaign to promote the diaries as "authentic".

    Again, read the book, not the headlines.

  2. #22
    James MacMillan is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    15th July 07
    Location
    California
    Posts
    4,573
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Another important thing to remember is perception and myth do have their place.

    Here we are in a place in time where the kilt has evolved into an generally accepted, comfortable mode of dress for modern man. The kilt now has versions that can be worn by the plumber or statesman; casual, dressy, formal etc. With few exceptions we can wear the kilt in any activity.

    If myth, misconception and lies have contributed to this - OK.

  3. #23
    Join Date
    20th February 06
    Location
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Posts
    1,078
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    "A historian who would convey the truth must lie. Often he must enlarge the truth by diameters, otherwise his reader would not be able to see it."

    - Twain

  4. #24
    Join Date
    1st December 06
    Location
    Conyers, Georgia
    Posts
    4,299
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Good thing he passed away. Saves us the trouble of stringing him up.

    I am reminded of the queen's treatment of the fellow who murdered James I--Robert Graham assited by Walter Stewart--after the Donnachaidh captured him; that would work.

    I won't let the facts get in the way of my opinion.
    Jim Killman
    Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
    Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.

  5. #25
    Join Date
    15th March 07
    Location
    Gilbert, Arizona
    Posts
    1,409
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BMackay View Post
    I have conducted extensive research, and have it on good authority that Matt Newsome is a fictitious character invented by Hank (the founder of xmarksthescot) to increase his traffic to this site and sell more ad space.
    LOL, I think we just need to put you in a lab coat or something and you can do some "doctor's" testomonials on TV.

  6. #26
    Join Date
    3rd August 07
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    2,693
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I can't speak to the literary criticism the book raises, but is there any real conflict as to how he depicts early Highland dress with what Matt Newsome depicts in his piece?

  7. #27
    macwilkin is offline
    Retired Forum Moderator
    Forum Historian

    Join Date
    22nd June 04
    Posts
    9,938
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would echo Rathdown's earlier statement that this is a reporter's take on the book and its theory, not the book itself.

    T.

  8. #28
    Join Date
    28th March 07
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    928
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yes, newspapers sometimes, occasionally (heavy sarcasm here) word things just to stir the pot and generate letters and controversy to sell papers.

  9. #29
    Join Date
    22nd March 07
    Location
    In Doors
    Posts
    897
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The Works of Ossian, have long been thought to be fake, and a fraud written by James MacPherson. It fact many of the story's are contradicted by actual historical fact. The Clans use them when it suites them, but even their own histories come into question. The MacLeod's are the result of a human and fairy mix... does that sound plausible? The past Chief of Clan MacLennan, has a genealogy list which has Adam at the start. Myth has long been a component of Scottish history. With the advent of the internet, anyone can write whatever they want a share it with the masses. And before you know it the misinformation, or lie is being passed off as fact all over the world.

    Frank Logan

  10. #30
    Join Date
    4th October 07
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    2,572
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    this article is fubar! fubar i tell you!
    Gillmore of Clan Morrison

    "Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Surprise surprise
    By NewKilt in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 26th June 07, 01:03 PM
  2. Surprise!
    By GMan in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10th June 07, 09:05 AM
  3. Another surprise
    By Derek in forum Miscellaneous Forum
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 21st January 06, 09:43 PM
  4. A Big Surprise!
    By GMan in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 24th June 05, 09:35 AM
  5. What a surprise!
    By Derek in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12th May 05, 12:04 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0