Why no belt with PC / Vest?

[thescot]

A PC without a wasit coat requires a belt with a nice silver buckle. At least, I think it requires one.

Personally, I prefer the waist coat, but the belt is OK. Scottie Thompson said it was OK, and that's good enough for me. I've seen many PCs with a belt and no waist coat, and they looked good.

[thescot]

Here's the way I see it.

A doublet is the equivalent of tails.

A PC or even an argyl with silver buttons = tux.

Tweed argyl = suit coat or sport coat

Wear fur sporrans for evening only (except for full mask)

White hose only in the evening (if at all)

Brush and floss daily, and get plenty of exercise.

I outta here.

[kennethrmc]

Has anyone noticed that the cover of Scotty Thompson's book (at least my old edition) shows a gentleman wearing a waistcoat AND a large silver belt with buckle?! That, despite the fact that the text says "no." What think you of that--illustrator's goof?

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Now my thought was that an Argyle with the metal buttons was the equivalent of a tuxedo (dinner) jacket, while a Prince Charlie was the equivalent of a tailcoat. Either could be worn for black tie, but only the Prince Charlie (or a doublet) for white tie.

Three button waistcoat and bowtie for black or white tie (in the appropriate color of course), five button with a regular 'four-in-hand' tie.

Absolutely correct, and the main reason why someone on a limited budget is better off with a black Argyll and two waistcoats than he would be with just a Prince Charlie coatee.

Although silver buttons are considered the norm for highland evening attire, the is no reason at all why cloth covered buttons can't be substituted on the jacket, waistcoat, or both. I tend to favour covered buttons on my Argyll 5-button waistcoat as they are a bit more subdued, especially for formal day wear. Evenings I have silver buttons, same as my jacket. With white tie and white waistcoat my buttons are either pearl or gold-- silver buttons being lost on the white fabric.

Wearing a cummerbund with a kilt is a tricky thing-- make damned certain that no shirt is visible on the sides of the kilt. Most Prince Charlies are cut a bit skimpy on the sides, and one's shirt is apt to show. The same applies to the look of the front of the ensamble; be sure that the waistcoat covers about 2-inches of the kilt-- if you can see shirt, the jacket/waistcoat don't fit.

[Bugbear]

All Right, I was wrong... again. I had been told that I was wrong about the Argyle and three button waistcoat, as well as the silver buttons

I'm... wrong either way and all the way around.
I'm going to have to go sit in the corner and think about what I have done.

[Highland Logan]

Has anyone noticed that the cover of Scotty Thompson's book (at least my old edition) shows a gentleman wearing a waistcoat AND a large silver belt with buckle?! That, despite the fact that the text says "no." What think you of that--illustrator's goof?

I don't recall seeing that cover. However Thompson does state "... and an evening belt and/or waistcoat." in referance in day attire. There is a black & white sketch to go along with this showing a waistcoat and belt.

Frank

[CDNSushi]

Ayin,

Also remember in a martini

It is either 1 olive or 2 cocktail onions!

Except, if we were going to rules-lawyer this, my understanding is that once you replace the olives with onions it's technically called a Gibson. Alternatively, if you take out the onions and use a splash of lime it's called a Gimlet.

Or, you could be like me -- not give a $%('& and just order a beer!

[Panache]

Except, if we were going to rules-lawyer this, my understanding is that once you replace the olives with onions it's technically called a Gibson. Alternatively, if you take out the onions and use a splash of lime it's called a Gimlet.

CDNSushi,

I was taught that you could call any of the following "Martinis"

Martini (Gin or vodka, with vermouth, garnished with 1 olive)

Gibson (Gin or vodka, with vermouth, garnished with 2 cocktail onions)

Dirty Martini (same as Martini but with a little of the olive juice in it)


The martini is an acquired taste, with practice and patience I have acquired it!

Cheers

Jamie

[Jock Scot]

An Argyle jacket is equivalent to Morning Dress, but can.. with a black bow tie, sub for Evening Dress. Or so this is what I have been led to believe. how this helps.

Frank

Yes,I agree.

[JSFMACLJR]

Three button waistcoat and bowtie for black or white tie (in the appropriate color of course), .

I prefer my evening waistcoats to have four buttons, although two of my white pique ones have three buttons, and one is double breasted and has two and two. Personal preference here on the four buttons.