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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerr the Walker View Post
    ...But for what it's worth I also shine my shoes fairly regularly (girlfriend thinks too much).
    Making sure one's shoes are well shined is a small detail that says a lot a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerr the Walker View Post
    ...If the author's sentiment was "end the day looking like you accomplished something," then I agree whole heartedly...
    Couldn't agree more - my can of spray starch says "extra crispy" and I love a freshly ironed cotton shirt first thing in the morning - but I also live an active lifestyle and see the daily wrinkles as silent testament to a life well lived.

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    Only linen or a cotton shirt that's been worn a while looks good wrinkled! At least for dressier occassions like the work place, and it seems that the article is speaking of exactly that. (I do not refer to hanging out in the park on a Saturday in my remarks below.)

    I fear that as an old f@&t, I am way out of touch with the "just got out of bed and came in the clothes I had on" look. I have noticed--and mentioned here before--that the unironed, unkempt, and uncombed look is a mark of the younger generation's sense of style. It's even a mark of studied fashion to have every item of clothing totally wrinkled and untucked, even if the items are quite expensive. (Take a look inside GQ some time.)

    As a man of the fashion days and rules of yore--and a past Marine--I wear heavily starched and creased dress shirts, well pressed trousers, and even my handkerchiefs are ironed. And I have had several folks note that I tend to look sharp, especially the ladies who often love the feel of a starched collar.

    I don't really care if folks want to wear wrinkled clothes, but to assert that only crumpled people accomplish something is pretty stupid! It is akin to saying that only well starched and ironed people accomplish something. Both are attempts to equate style with human value.

    I like starch and creases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thescot View Post
    [snip]but to assert that only crumpled people accomplish something is pretty stupid! [/snip]
    I only meant to point out that the only way to end the day as crisp and pressed as at the beginning is to not leave the house. One can remain neat and put together all day, but the general business of going about one's day will invariably take out some of the creases out of one's shirt.

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    I agree with the first post entirely! After all, I pride myself on the 25 or so very large wrinkles "round my rear" that I leave the house with on a daily basis!

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    I couldn't say exactly what was in the mind of the author, but I have to agree with Kerr on this one. Look sharp as you begin the day, but don't let concerns about your clothing paralyze you. "Oh, I can't bend down and pick up that box, because, if I do, I might wrinkle my shirt." Get over yourself princess, you're not that pretty!

    That's what irons are for anyway. Taking out the wrinkles that real life puts into our clothing. Don't let your clothing get in the way of living.

    Your clothing should be serving you a purpose. Not you serving your clothing.




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    Wrinkled shirts are alright. They just get a bad press...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart Rendall View Post
    Wrinkled shirts are alright. They just get a bad press...
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    Personally, I prefer a few wrinkles, myself. I work with a guy who even starches and presses his pockets to the point where it's rediculous. To me a totally wrinkle free shirt says "I have OCD!!" This guy is totally OCD and so much fun to play with. He's like my own personal doll that screams and rolls it's eyes back in it's head at the slightest shake. It's great.
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    There are times when I feel the need to look sparkly and crisp. There are times when wrinked or rumpled is fine. Use a little thought when getting dressed. Like it or not people judge each other on their appearence. Even those who say they don't.

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