Buttons on a Doublet

[Chas]

Hi JSFMACLJR,

I recognise Rafal Heydel-Mankoo, but who is that with him? Rafal seems to have disappeared off the face of the world - he doesn't answer his emails or update his blog and most of his memberships seem to have lapsed. How long ago was this picture taken?

Regards

Chas

[JSFMACLJR]

Hi JSFMACLJR,

I recognise Rafal Heydel-Mankoo, but who is that with him? Rafal seems to have disappeared off the face of the world - he doesn't answer his emails or update his blog and most of his memberships seem to have lapsed. How long ago was this picture taken?

Regards

Chas

Hi Chas,
Yes that is Rafe with the late Lumsden of Cushnie. The pics were taken at a Royal Stuart Society function a couple of years ago.

Cheers,
Sandford

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Hi JSFMACLJR,

I recognise Rafal Heydel-Mankoo, but who is that with him? Rafal seems to have disappeared off the face of the world - he doesn't answer his emails or update his blog and most of his memberships seem to have lapsed. How long ago was this picture taken?

Regards

Chas

As Sandy has pointed out that's Rafe with the late David Lumsden of Cushnie. I'm regularly in touch with Rafe, who lives in London. The photo, by the way, was taken in the drawing room at Hamilton House, in Prestonpans, a place where I passed many, many, a delightful hour with Cushnie.

[Jack Daw]

I hope without changing the subject (but as an interesting aside), I see that with the castellated hose depiction, the sgian dhu is tucked ONLY inside the garter and OUTSIDE of the hose. Is this preferred or an individual choice?

[Bugbear]

Doh! Now I'm obsessed with these scooped front, four button waistcoats... I think I would actually prefer that to the V front waistcoat style.

The only problem is that I keep seeing, in my mind, the scoop front waistcoat with the pleated front tuxedo shirt and studs. I don't think that would go well with Highland attire. I guess it would look alright with a plain front, french closure dress shirt...

[Bugbear]

I thought the PC was designed in the early half of the nineteen-hundreds, in the first place...

Although, I'm not sure how big of a change it is to put buttons on the side of the closure and do away with the double row.

[thescot]

I'm sure that the back buttons once actually buttoned for the purpose noted above, and we have retained the look for purposes of assthetics.

You can see a little different button arrangement on Sir Sean's PC here.



Note that he has buttons on only one side. I thin Kinloch Anderson sells a jacket like this.

[Bugbear]

And if one does not feel right about faking one's social status or class with fake buttons... ?

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

And if one does not feel right about faking one's social status or class with fake buttons... ?

Ted,
I hope I have not inadvertently conveyed the impression that someone is somehow "faking" social status by wearing an off the rack Prince Charlie coatee. Far from it. Social status (whatever that may really mean) is dependent on only one thing: being honest.

It doesn't matter if the PC came from Gold Brothers or Stewart Christies, as long as the man inside that jacket isn't pretending to be be something he is not; if he is being himself then he is certainly the social equal of any other honest gentleman in the room.

Truly, amongst gentlemen, actions, not clothes, make the man.

[Bugbear]

I'm sorry, MacMillan of Rathdown, I see how my post probably conveys that.

I'm trying to say, for example, that I would feel better about myself if I had something without all the chrome buttons because I probably wont have that many real silver buttons. I guess I'm looking for a middle ground in all of this.
I wouldn't want to try to fool people into thinking I have something better than I do have; it wouldn't work anyway.

I think you are saying something similar.


* And your posts have been very informative toward the subject and questions of this thread. Thank you. Again, I apologise for that post and for going off track; I enjoy learning about these different styles and tailorings of the jackets. *