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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    It's the black band and ribbons that might bother me; I might prefer red and white dicing, but it's not too dig of an issue.
    Not sure about this, but, i seem to recall reading somewhere, that the red & white dicing was to indicate that the wearer was Protestant, rather than Catholic ( after the "reformation").??
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhockin View Post
    Not sure about this, but, i seem to recall reading somewhere, that the red & white dicing was to indicate that the wearer was Protestant, rather than Catholic ( after the "reformation").??


    Um, I had just read a thread on dicing when I posted that; I didn't see anything about this subject.

    And being that I am neither, as well as, have no bonnet, I think I should stay out of this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhockin View Post
    Not sure about this, but, i seem to recall reading somewhere, that the red & white dicing was to indicate that the wearer was Protestant, rather than Catholic ( after the "reformation").??
    That's a new one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhockin View Post
    Not sure about this, but, i seem to recall reading somewhere, that the red & white dicing was to indicate that the wearer was Protestant, rather than Catholic ( after the "reformation").??
    Dicing is decorative, pure and simple. If it has any associations, it is with individual Scottish regiments that wore a particular pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloitpiper View Post
    I don't think there is any symbolism behind the red color. Just like most pieces of highland attire it is simply decorative.
    Toorie Trivia: Queen's University, the one in Kingston Ontario, prides itself on having been founded by Scots. All students are aligned by faculties there, not colleges etc. The students are offered student-priced Balmorals (they call them Tams) that have toorie colours according to the students' faculites: purple for Arts, golden for Engineers, and so on. Some faculites split toorie colours 50/50, ie, red on one side and golden on the other. This however is a recent development not, I think, an historical one.


    Quote Originally Posted by jhockin View Post
    Not sure about this, but, i seem to recall reading somewhere, that the red & white dicing was to indicate that the wearer was Protestant, rather than Catholic ( after the "reformation").??
    Toorie Fact: When I got my first Balmoral, which was hunter green, an elderly uncle from the land of NI grumpily told me it looked fine but it should have come with a red toorie (in fact it had none), because our people in NI wore Balmorals or Glengarries with red toories. So, NI being NI, that is likely another religious affiliations thing, in the context I heard it probably a coded one. Perhaps those are or were generational. In any case I'm quite sure they no longer mean anything, the toories I mean.
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    As was posted earlier, red touries were used to identify line infantry troops. Grenadiers had white touries and Light Infantry had green touries. As light troops and grenadiers began to be formed into their own battalions, the line infantry maintainted their red touries simply because they had always had them.
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    Bonnets were originally knitted in a circular method that let the raw ends finished in a small top-knot in the centre. The modern toorie is a residual decoration that represents this.

    Different colours are a matter of taste and tradition, often regimental.

    I once shut my cat in the wardrobe were my TOS was stored whereupon he tore the thing to shreds. I wrote off to Myer & Mortimer explaining the circumstances and got two by return, gratis - one for my TOS & one for the cat. You don't get service like that nowadays.

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