Confederate Memorial

**Mael Coluim** · 9th June 10, 09:27 PM

Well, I wouldn’t begrudge anyone wearing the Confederate Memorial tartan. My ancestor Samuel Taylor served Bobby Lee as a spy, not as soldier. With the Sesquicentennial coming up and living in the midst of so many battlefields, I am planning kilted tours of them as the dates of the battles come up. I have decided to get Rocky to make me a semi-trad in his American heritage to commemorate the sacrifice of all who fought, especially those of Scottish ancestry on both sides.

**L. Ramsay** · 9th June 10, 08:41 PM

Here's a neat one I found in the registry, dating to 1861.

http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar...s.aspx?ref=728

**Mael Coluim** · 9th June 10, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by L. Ramsay

Here's a neat one I found in the registry, dating to 1861.

http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar...s.aspx?ref=728

That's quite intriguing.

**Detroitpete** · 10th June 10, 05:02 AM

I see nothing wrong with your choice to wear this tartan. I'd suggest getting it in the best kilt you can afford--don't go cheap on it--you'll thank yourself later.

I'm a descendant of a 'splt' family during this conflict. My paternal GGGranfather fought for the CSA in the 31st. Virginia and his first cousin fought for the USA in the 15th. West Virginia. I designed a tartan and proudly wear this kilt to honor both sides. Of course there is a blend of blue and grey in it. It's on the Scottish Register of tartans #10127 if you're interested in checking it out.

**MrShoe** · 10th June 10, 05:19 AM

As a life long resident of the North with family that served only in the Union, I would not were the Confederate Memorial, but would not look down on anyone that did. Northern or Southern. It is a very beautiful combination that when I first saw it I wanted it. But the traditionalist in me finds no linkage to it.

Originally Posted by Detroitpete

I'm a descendant of a 'splt' family during this conflict. My paternal GGGranfather fought for the CSA in the 31st. Virginia and his first cousin fought for the USA in the 15th. West Virginia. I designed a tartan and proudly wear this kilt to honor both sides. Of course there is a blend of blue and grey in it. It's on the Scottish Register of tartans #10127 if you're interested in checking it out.

Very nice creation Mark. I like the symbolism that was included in your design.

**piperdbh** · 10th June 10, 05:25 AM

If you're wanting to wear the Confederate Memorial to honor the soldiers of "the South", keep in mind that geography did not necessarily dictate allegiance to either of the two governments. Many folks in the Appalachians sided with the Union, as did a few flat-landers.

I think it's a beautiful tartan, and if you get the kilt, I hope to see you at Games and such.

**macwilkin** · 10th June 10, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by piperdbh

If you're wanting to wear the Confederate Memorial to honor the soldiers of "the South", keep in mind that geography did not necessarily dictate allegiance to either of the two governments. Many folks in the Appalachians sided with the Union, as did a few flat-landers.

I think it's a beautiful tartan, and if you get the kilt, I hope to see you at Games and such.

Point of information: every state that seceded also produced at least one regiment for service in the Union Army. Besides West Virginia, which seceded from Virginia in 1863 to rejoin the Union, large portions of Eastern Tennessee, Northern Alabama and Arkansas and the German areas of Texas remained loyal to the Republic. In the case of Northern Arkansas, 6 regiments of Cavalry, Infantry and Artillery were raised from the "Mountain Feds" of the Arkansas Ozarks. They served on garrison duty here in SW Missouri and NW Arkansas, fighting irregular partisans, and were valued for their knowledge of the country.

An excellent of information regarding the Southern Loyalists is Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy by Richard N. Current.

T.

**piperdbh** · 10th June 10, 05:52 AM

Thanks, Todd. It looks like there were more than "a few" flat-landers fighting for the Union.

**Detroitpete** · 10th June 10, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Point of information: every state that seceded also produced at least one regiment for service in the Union Army. Besides West Virginia, which seceded from Virginia in 1863 to rejoin the Union, large portions of Eastern Tennessee, Northern Alabama and Arkansas and the German areas of Texas remained loyal to the Republic. In the case of Northern Arkansas, 6 regiments of Cavalry, Infantry and Artillery were raised from the "Mountain Feds" of the Arkansas Ozarks. They served on garrison duty here in SW Missouri and NW Arkansas, fighting irregular partisans, and were valued for their knowledge of the country.

An excellent of information regarding the Southern Loyalists is Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy by Richard N. Current.

T.

Again with good information and great resources! Thanks.

**L. Ramsay** · 10th June 10, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

large portions of Eastern Tennessee,

Pardon the off-topic nature of my addition here, but I find it worth noting that my family were well-to-do secessionists right around Knoxville. If you're ever in the area, you might want to check out Ramsey House.