Kilted Golfer DENIED Play at Royal Troon because of the kilt

**sathor** · 10th August 10, 03:23 AM

One of my friends commented a few days back that he saw a GUY wearing CAPRIS on a golf course. <<shudder>>

I remember a news story like this a few years back, where a kiltie was denied playing a course, and the official reason wound up being the socks he was wearing, and the course thought it was disrespectful of the kilt.

**PEEDYC** · 10th August 10, 03:48 AM

I am not a golfer but have had to get involved due to previous jobs where my employer Company sponsored games. I was once asked by my boss to stand at the back of the hall during the prize presentations as I was not wearing a suit and he didn't want me expelled. I was dressed very smart casual with jacket and tie and was probably one of the smartest looking there as many wore ill fitting and faded suits. Unfortunately rules are rules no matter how stupid.

This decision by the Club may have been a loose interpretation of the rules by them but it was their decision and right. As far as the Caddiemaster not seeing Jeff I am sure he knew what a kilt looks like. Out of courtsey I suggest he could have conveyed his decision in person if he had the time.

There are clubs in the Uk that only admit men if they are wearing neckties. It would be their decision as to what constituted a necktie. Would it include the bootlace type with a steers head woggle or a cravat? I don't know but I defend their right to decide.

I used to try and bend the rules when I was at school. One had to wear grey trousers and so I chose charcoal grey (almost black). Nothing in the rules mentioned waistcoats so I wore one under my blazer. It was often pointe dout that my interpretation of the rules did not comply and was sent home to change several times.

**Riverkilt** · 10th August 10, 06:43 AM

Seems like this situation would make a great story for one of the golfing magazines.....

**Frank McGrath** · 10th August 10, 06:58 AM

I have an offer for the caddiemaster. A cranialanalectomy.

**highlander_Daz** · 10th August 10, 08:18 AM

"Dress Code

Headwear is not permitted in the Clubhouse.
Gentlemen are required to wear jacket and tie in the Smoke Room and the Dining Room although casual golf wear is acceptable in the Club Bar and for lunch in the Ailsa Room.
Denim jeans, shorts, tee shirts and training/sports shoes are not permitted in the Clubhouse or on the Courses.
Ladies are permitted to wear tailored shorts."

In the Uk it is a crime to descriminate or to treat less favourably on the basis of gender,
Goods or services that are available to the public must be provided in a way that does not discriminate unfairly on the grounds of gender.

There are three ways that a service provider might discriminate on the grounds of gender:

* refusing to provide you with a service
* providing you with a lower standard of service
* providing you with a service on worse terms

If Jeffs kilt was being classed as shorts then by allowing ladies to wear shorts and not men the club is falling foul of the law

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/y...as-a-consumer/

**Lallans** · 10th August 10, 08:43 AM

The national dress is banned by a officious official at a golf course? You must have found yourself faced with a 'Caddymaster*' who, in his own mind, lives in 'North Britain' and not in Scotland- I'd hoped they all died out in the last century. Perhaps a heritage foundation should be started up to fight these kilt-hating 'North British' folks, the ilk of whom, frankly, I have encountered socially while not kilted. Sean Connery could approached about becoming the chairman of the foundation.

* I have manfully resisted making jokes around the 'cad' portion of that job title. Well, until now.

**Bing** · 10th August 10, 09:28 AM

Hey Jeff.

Although I am not usually given over to conspiracy theories I have to ask, is it remotely possible that your wife bribed the caddiemaster?

**Kornkob** · 10th August 10, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by highlander_Daz

In the Uk it is a crime to descriminate or to treat less favourably on the basis of gender,
Goods or services that are available to the public must be provided in a way that does not discriminate unfairly on the grounds of gender.

Is this the case with non-publicly funded clubs as well? In the US you can form a privately held club that allows only men, only women or only people of a particular lineage, though you may be subject to public criticism and protest.

**PEEDYC** · 11th August 10, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kornkob

Is this the case with non-publicly funded clubs as well? In the US you can form a privately held club that allows only men, only women or only people of a particular lineage, though you may be subject to public criticism and protest.

It is the same in the UK and if I am not mistaken the golf club in question is a private club with its own rules. I am a member of a men only social club in the UK. Women are allowed to serve behind the bar but not allowed in the club area even to collect glasses or clean tables.

As far as interpreting the golf club rules are concerned I must agree with the Caddiemaster in this case. If a transvestite golfer (if there are any?) turned up in a dress would he have to be allowed on the course as it is not specificly mentioned in the rules. There has to be some interpretation as not all circumstances can be listed. The club has its rules ..... stupid or not.