Food For Thought

[Chas]

Alright, I have a plan, don't hold your breath though as it will take more than a wee while for the occasion to appear.

I am looking forward to Part II. It would be interesting to see how much of a change there is - if at all.

Regards

Chas

[creagdhubh]

From reading of your posts Jock, the answers of your friends does not surprise me in the least. They are traditionalists and I salute them. (and I would have liked to be a fly on the wall during this process to hear the comments outside of the answers given )

Me too! Very interesting indeed!

Thanks Jock,

[Phil]

An interesting observation there and had you been a fly on the wall the other evening you would have had to listen very long and very hard to detect even a smidgen of a Scots accent.

Jock, are you seriously trying to tell us that your opinion poll was compiled by a bunch of sassenachs? And are you then going to say that anything they say has any validity, whatsoever, for genuine Scottish opinion? Generals, Colonels, whatever they may be, they obviously have about as much relevance to actual life in Scotland as fly in the air. Please tell me that you do actually have contact with real Scottish people and that this is not the sort of opinion you are trying to promulgate as factual?

[Jock Scot]

Jock, are you seriously trying to tell us that your opinion poll was compiled by a bunch of sassenachs? And are you then going to say that anything they say has any validity, whatsoever, for genuine Scottish opinion? Generals, Colonels, whatever they may be, they obviously have about as much relevance to actual life in Scotland as fly in the air. Please tell me that you do actually have contact with real Scottish people and that this is not the sort of opinion you are trying to promulgate as factual?

Phil, if you care to read my last paragraph in my first post , I fully accept that 9 points of view was not, and never could be, a true cross section of Scots opinion. My point was that over 500 years of Scots kilt wearing experience could not be ignored.

The 9 interviewed are Scots born (the question Master, me, was born in Cheltenham, by accident for what it is worth) with deep Scottish roots and like many Scots(me included) moved outwith Scotland to make our way in life. I have made no secret of that. In point of fact I have made a very firm point of making that clear later in the thread. Take it for what it is, a bit of interesting(?) fun ----I claim it to be nothing more and if any one wants to draw a conclusion from it, then so be it.

[Paul Henry]

to be fair though, it's not really 500 years of experience though is, it is 60 or 70 years from similar men of a similar age with a similar experience of kilt wearing , so it's not really surprising that very similar views are held!

It is nonetheless an interesting view of a very small set of fairly well to do gentlemen of good social standing,and to me not very surprising, but it is not really a very true reflection of how the kilt is worn in Scotland by the general hoi poloi!

[Downunder Kilt]

Gentlemen, Jock has made it abundantly clear that this was an after dinner parlour game, instead of charades. At no time has he stated that it is indicative of a general poll of highland Scots. A gentleman has had a bit of fun with his mates and spouses and people are comming down on him like a ton of bricks. All he is doing is relating an interesting story.

[Paul Henry]

Gentlemen, Jock has made it abundantly clear that this was an after dinner parlour game, instead of charades. At no time has he stated that it is indicative of a general poll of highland Scots. A gentleman has had a bit of fun with his mates and spouses and people are comming down on him like a ton of bricks. All he is doing is relating an interesting story.

Indeed very true , and I think that many of us accept it exactly on that basis, but I am wary that some forum members might think that the reponses recieved are how a kilt should be worn, rather than how a kilt can be worn, and in consequence not realise that there are many other ways of kilt wearing that are equally acceptable, not perhaps as traditional , but just as valid.

[Sir William]

Do you know, Mrs Jock really hit on a winner there, we all had great fun and it was well after 1.30 in the morning before we could get the questions answered. It is something of a shock, to those that do not spend time on here, that there are things about Our national attire that the locals have never heard of. And explaining a civilian box pleated kilt , for example, particularly as I have never seen one was hilariously tricky! Also the blank looks on the faces when district tartans were mentioned was a wonder to behold!

Jock,

This is great! Not sure how I missed this and didn't see it earlier!

I would have loved to have sat in and seen their expressions to the questions (and the answers).

I found the question about where their kilt length to be interesting given a current thread on that topic elsewhere.

[Mark Stephenson]

Jock,
Thanks to you and the Mrs. for this most interesting post. What great fun! Of course, I compared my answers to those of your friends, except for those questions that reflected issues discussed on this forum, I was surprised at how my answers would have fit in with those of your friends. As was discussed above, this probably reflects the fact that my military background and age are similar to those of some of the men in your group. I do have one question: do you think these gentlemen would "understand" that those of us with a strong Highland heritage wear the kilt to acknowledge that heritage and to honor our forefathers?

[ForresterModern]

Hey Jock. Ya missus left off the most important question of all! How many have ever worn a flat cap with their kilt?