Wednesday Aug. 1, 2012

**castledangerous** · 31st July 12, 08:19 AM

August 1 is also the Celtic harvest festival Lúnasa, or as it is known in Scotland, Lùnastal, so kilting seems even that much more appropriate...

**O'Searcaigh** · 31st July 12, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by sailortats

Glad you mentioned this. I was unaware of the date. However now that you bring it up, I shall wear a kilt that day myself. My kilt will travel to the local pub that day however, and not to the office as I am now retired.

Hey, I'm retired too but live in a "dry county" (so no pubs) but I can lift a pint of Old Motor Oil (and then maybe a dram ), wear my Scottish National kilt, sgian dubh and maybe even play my pipes a bit [which always seems better -- to me at least -- after a pint and and dram

]-- ' fraid that will have to do for my part in the rebellion.

**tundramanq** · 31st July 12, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by O'Searcaigh

Hey, I'm retired too but live in a "dry county" (so no pubs) but I can lift a pint of Old Motor Oil (and then maybe a dram ), wear my Scottish National kilt, sgian dubh and maybe even play my pipes a bit [which always seems better -- to me at least -- after a pint and and dram

]-- ' fraid that will have to do for my part in the rebellion.

come on, the wettest counties in Tennessee ARE the dry counties.

**figheadair** · 31st July 12, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rob, ClanMacMillan, NM

Even though the Battle of Culloden was in 1746, the actual Proscription against the wearing of tartan, etc. did not go into effect until August 1, 1747 -- which would make this the 265th anniversary.

"That from and after the First Day of August 1747, no man or boy within that part of Great Britain called Scotland, other than such as shall be employed as Officers and Soldiers of His Majesty's Forces, shall on any pretext whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes, commonly called Highland clothes ..."
http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_hi...scription.html

I will (hopefully) wear a kilt that day also...

Rob.

As you quote later, the Act did not ban the wearing of tartan, it banned the wearing of Highland clothes which many have later taken to mean tartan per se but htat wasn't the case.

**dea3369** · 31st July 12, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by tundramanq

come on, the wettest counties in Tennessee ARE the dry counties.

Ain't that the truth. Sometimes I believe they should adopt the Blue Bell Ice Cream "motto" -- "We eat all we can and sell all the rest" and change 'eat' to 'drink.'

**tundramanq** · 31st July 12, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by figheadair

As you quote later, the Act did not ban the wearing of tartan, it banned the wearing of Highland clothes which many have later taken to mean tartan per se but htat wasn't the case.

From the original proscription:
And be it further enacted by the authority aforesaid, That from and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no man or boy, within that part of Great Briton called Scotland, other than shall be employed as officers and soldiers in his Majesty's forces, shall on any pretence whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the plaid, philibeg, or little kilt, trowse, shoulder belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the highland garb; and that no tartan, or partly-coloured plaid or stuff shall be used for great coats, or for upper coats; and if any such person shall presume, after the said first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid garments or any part of them, every such person so offending, being convicted thereof by the oath of one or more credible witness or witnesses before any court of justiciary, or any one or more justices of the peace for the shire or stewartry, or judge ordinary of the place where such offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without bail, during the space of six months, and no longer; and being convicted for a second offence before a court of justiciary or at the circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of his Majesty's plantations beyond the seas, there to remain for a space of seven years.

**Kilted Cole** · 31st July 12, 11:57 AM

Isn't there a quote or a saying about 12 Highlanders and a Bagpipe make a rebellion or some such thing? If so, then were almost there. lol

**Rob, ClanMacMillan, NM** · 31st July 12, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by figheadair

As you quote later, the Act did not ban the wearing of tartan, it banned the wearing of Highland clothes which many have later taken to mean tartan per se but htat wasn't the case.

Actually, it was the case. Specifically:

"And be it further enacted by the authority aforesaid, That from and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no man or boy, within that part of Great Briton called Scotland, other than shall be employed as officers and soldiers in his Majesty's forces, shall on any pretence whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the plaid, philibeg, or little kilt, trowse, shoulder belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the highland garb; and that no tartan, or partly-coloured plaid or stuff shall be used for great coats, or for upper coats; and if any such person shall presume, after the said first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid garments or any part of them, every such person so offending, being convicted thereof by the oath of one or more credible witness or witnesses before any court of justiciary, or any one or more justices of the peace for the shire or stewartry, or judge ordinary of the place where such offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without bail, during the space of six months, and no longer; and being convicted for a second offence before a court of justiciary or at the circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of his Majesty's plantations beyond the seas, there to remain for a space of seven years."
http://dailysirwalter.blogspot.com/2...scription.html

Rob.

P.S. Sorry Chuck - I should read all the posts before responding - lol.

**Tobus** · 31st July 12, 12:49 PM

Note that the portion that banned tartan was only specific to "great coats" or "upper coats". The rest of the Act was for certain types of clothing that is specific to the Highlands, but did not ban tartan itself.

Keep in mind that tartan was worn by Lowlanders as well, and the Act was meant only to punish Highland culture. So it was specific to Highland attire, but was not an across-the-board ban on tartan.

**figheadair** · 31st July 12, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tobus

Note that the portion that banned tartan was only specific to "great coats" or "upper coats". The rest of the Act was for certain types of clothing that is specific to the Highlands, but did not ban tartan itself.

Keep in mind that tartan was worn by Lowlanders as well, and the Act was meant only to punish Highland culture. So it was specific to Highland attire, but was not an across-the-board ban on tartan.

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