Maxwell Crest Ring

[jmaxwell522]

David that is a great idea, however we all have fill sets of Maxwell crested items, sporrans, sgain, buckles, watches, pins to wear with our Maxwell Tartan. So I'm not ignoring any advice I am taking it into consideration. We have plans to join the Clan Maxwell Society USA, possibly meet new family unknown to us. I was married in Maxwell Tartan and accessories and wear them on many occasions throughout the year.
To most Americans these arms, crests, and heraldry are akin to a family name, until recently I was unaware of the fact that what is known as the Maxwell Clan Crest has nothing to do with those bearing the name Maxwell. But still to me these are symbols of heritage and family. "Reviresco" as it stands has many meanings to me personally, I have "flourished again" on a few occasions to overcome unemployment, sickness, loss of my mother (who took that to heart as well and rose against the odds while battling cancer). So to me this is more than someone elses crest, its a family symbol for strength in the face of adversity. This crest hangs on my accessories as well as in my heart as a motto to live by, to strive to and to hold true.
I apologize if this offends the Court, or any other member of this forum. I am dropping all updates to this process, I just thought I'd share something special not get into debates about assuming others property.

[Carlo]

Here's an idea that I really commend to you: press the pause button on this project and consider assuming/recording/matriculating arms for you/your father. As an American, you have many different options to pursue arms of your very own. If you so choose, your father and his descendants could have signet rings showing their own crest, rather than those of another individual. This should be more meaningful for your family and would remove the concerns about stealing another's arms. Even though Lyon has no jurisdiction in the United States, it's bad form to appropriate another's arms.

Several members of XMarks have been through this design process and are great sources of information. I'm convinced that you will end up with a much better resolution than if you simply ignore the advice of Lyon Clerk.

David

While I agree with David that you might think about your own arms I do also see your point.
There are always symbols that are used for different things, even arms.
Example:
I give you Scotland
UK national anthem
Oh and I could go on with the old swiss anthem...

Still, you consider yourself at least part Scottish otherwise you wouldn't be here. So it might be the right thing to listen to David.

I think you have every right to do what you like. Copyright for the crest must have vanished long ago and since you are in a different country UK law does not apply to you.

[creagdhubh]

Here's an idea that I really commend to you: press the pause button on this project and consider assuming/recording/matriculating arms for you/your father. As an American, you have many different options to pursue arms of your very own. If you so choose, your father and his descendants could have signet rings showing their own crest, rather than those of another individual. This should be more meaningful for your family and would remove the concerns about stealing another's arms. Even though Lyon has no jurisdiction in the United States, it's bad form to appropriate another's arms.

Several members of XMarks have been through this design process and are great sources of information. I'm convinced that you will end up with a much better resolution than if you simply ignore the advice of Lyon Clerk.

David

Excellent idea, David and I couldn't agree more.

I would highly recommend going this route. As David mentioned, there is a plethora of options for Americans to pursue arms of their very own without fear of mistakenly (or purposely) assuming those of another individual. The latter is indeed illegal and punishable by law in other countries such as Scotland, but more importantly and in my opinion, it's simply an act of thievery, poor judgment and demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge or disregard for Scots Heraldry.

I'm not overly keen on the whole "well, I'm an American and no one will ever know or even care" mentality. For instance, take a look at the Steven L. Akins debacle and see what a mess he has created for himself (obviously Mr. Akins' situation is far different than yours, rather, just an example of an extreme case)! It boils down to personal integrity, honour and going about the process in the correct manner. Aren't honour and integrity - notable attributes (amongst others) of personal character - a large part of heraldry in itself? I tend to think so.

Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck! I would also like to commend you on having a deep appreciation and connection with the Maxwell crest. You obviously exhibit an honest passion and deep respect for whence your family came and its Scottish roots - I completely respect that and know precisely where you are coming from. It sounds like you have been through many trials and tribulations and the Maxwell clan motto of "Reviresco" holds special meaning with you and yours. That's a wonderful aspect of clanship!

Best wishes,

[Carlo]

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I think it would be enough to ad 5 lines on the same 3dimensional layer as the two circular lines.
I don't know what program you are working with, but I would guess that it should be possible to add the lines as shown in the picture.
Maybe that helps.

[jmaxwell522]

Carlo,
Thanks I was looking at the design last night and trying to figure a way to add the buckle that didn't look awkward and that would show in printing, your idea is great. Hopefully I can pull it off, I'm still fairly new at the 3D software thing. I had alot of help with the ring and they provided great guidance but I'm on my own for this part.
Thanks again for all the feedback,