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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren View Post
    Cool. Thanks, guys.

    Matt, you do offer customer-supplied fabric options on your website, I see.

    Would two yards of double-width 13oz tartan from Strathmore be suitable for a 4-yard box pleated kilt?

    Thank you.
    It would work, though my recommendation for four yard kilts is to use heavy weight (16 oz) cloth. Going with a 13 oz cloth would make for a very light kilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    True, they are capable of weaving any weight cloth. Thank you for the clarification. The bulk of the cloth offered on their web site, which is plain weave, is the 8/9oz spring weight. This is what I was referring to, in response to the question of what weight the fabric was.
    I was simply giving the details from their website, and the link to show the standard weights they weave, not just the spring one.

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    Oic. Thank you, Matt. I like the colour pallate that Strathmore offers but I don't see an option for 16oz on their site. Which weavers offer the deeper coloyr similar to Strathmore but in a suitable weight? Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulhenry View Post
    I was simply giving the details from their website, and the link to show the standard weights they weave, not just the spring one.
    Gotcha. If you click where it says "Material" on the top of their page, you'll find that they fail to give the weight of either their plain weave or twill weave cloth. As discussed, their plain weave is 8 or 9 oz tie weight. Their twill weave I assume is a 10 oz weight. I know they do keep some stock of this cloth, as well. I don't think they do anything heavier as stock, except for special situations (such as the St. Ninian tartan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren View Post
    Oic. Thank you, Matt. I like the colour pallate that Strathmore offers but I don't see an option for 16oz on their site. Which weavers offer the deeper coloyr similar to Strathmore but in a suitable weight? Thank you.
    What tartan are you looking for? Why don't you email me and we can discuss specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    Gotcha. If you click where it says "Material" on the top of their page, you'll find that they fail to give the weight of either their plain weave or twill weave cloth. As discussed, their plain weave is 8 or 9 oz tie weight. Their twill weave I assume is a 10 oz weight. I know they do keep some stock of this cloth, as well. I don't think they do anything heavier as stock, except for special situations (such as the St. Ninian tartan).
    if you actually look at the page it does say:-
    on the tie weight " Buy this Plain Weave Material and make up any product you wish, 8oz 100% Pure New Wool"
    and on the skirt weight "Buy this Twill Weave Material and make into any product you wish, 10oz 100% Pure New Wool."

    So while we are completely in agreement that really the standard tartans they weave are really too light for kilts, they have at least been clear on their website of the weights and type of weave of the lighter fabrics although I imagine they don't have a wonderful selvedge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulhenry View Post
    if you actually look at the page it does say:-
    on the tie weight " Buy this Plain Weave Material and make up any product you wish, 8oz 100% Pure New Wool"
    and on the skirt weight "Buy this Twill Weave Material and make into any product you wish, 10oz 100% Pure New Wool."

    So while we are completely in agreement that really the standard tartans they weave are really too light for kilts, they have at least been clear on their website of the weights and type of weave of the lighter fabrics although I imagine they don't have a wonderful selvedge!
    That's bizarre. When I follow the link to the materials page, this is all the description I see:
    "Tartan Plain Weave Material 54” – 152cm Wide (100% Pure New Wool)
    Buy this plain weave material and make up virtually any tartan product you wish. Lightweight and comes in 100% new wool.
    Material sold in whole yards only."

    No mention of the fabric weight. Same for the twill weave. Same for the silk.

    At first I thought it might be a glitch on their US price page, but I checked their UK and Canadian price pages and find the same thing. I have no idea why the page would show different information when you load it up, but there you have it.

    About the selvage, I have made a child's kilt from their 10 oz twill weave and don't recall having an issue with the selvage. Their 8 oz would not have a good kilt selvage, but then no one would be making a kilt from it anyway!

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    Paul this is very curious. I have just copied the text direct from the site and I can't see any mention of the weight either.

    "Buy this plain weave material and make up virtually any tartan product you wish. Lightweight and comes in 100% new wool."

    Thought it must be a transatlantic anomaly, but obviously not.

    We must have entered the "twill-light" zone.
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    Just so I am not going mad....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Paul this is very curious. I have just copied the text direct from the site and I can't see any mention of the weight either.

    "Buy this plain weave material and make up virtually any tartan product you wish. Lightweight and comes in 100% new wool."

    Thought it must be a transatlantic anomaly, but obviously not.

    We must have entered the "twill-light" zone.

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    I had a quick look on their site soley because the different things you people are seeing intrigued me. It seems that if you go first to the St Ninian product page (through the icone "St Ninian Products" at the top of the page) and then click on "material" in the side menu, you get the page that Paul is seeing. If you go directly to the material page, through the appropriate icone "Material" at the top of the page, you get the page that everyone else is seeing!

    So everyone is right and no one is wrong!!
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