Traditional 8-Yard Kilting With a Gut

[Rob]

...He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"...Rufus

That comment indicates that the guy is either arrogant, ignorant, of full of hot air. (maybe a bit of all three.)

As Welsh kilts are made in exactly the same way as any other traditional kilts, the only difference is the Welsh Tartan. I therefore suspect that what he really meant was that Welsh Tartans aren't real tartans. Even if he did mean that he is wrong. Many people (including many Scots) believe that for a tartan to be real, it has to be a Clan Tartan, but this is incorrect as tartans existed before the first Clan Tartan was produced.

The earliest were District Tartans, probably because if you happened to live in a particular district, you wore the 'district' tartan that the local weaver produced.

Since then there have been Family Tartans, Corporate Tartans, Comemorative Tartans etc., so those who are snobbish about what constitutes a true tartan are merely showing their ignorance.

Rob

[Rufus]

The guy that made the comment about Welsh cilts is an older gentleman that moved to the States from Scotland about 10 years ago. He was definitely opinionated. He also told me that a kilt "made in anything less than 16oz tartan was good for nothing but a woman's skirt." I can't imagine what he thinks of the casual kilts that fit down low on the hips.

When he said that Welsh kilts weren't real kilts, he meant because they weren't from Scotland, and thus must be impostors.

Rob - I definitely detected tartan snobbery from him. He's of the "Clan tartans are the only good tartans" mindset.

Rufus

[Blu (Ontario)]

...He also said that, "Welsh kilts aren't real kilts!"...Rufus

That comment indicates that the guy is either arrogant, ignorant, of full of hot air. (maybe a bit of all three.)

As Welsh kilts are made in exactly the same way as any other traditional kilts, the only difference is the Welsh Tartan. I therefore suspect that what he really meant was that Welsh Tartans aren't real tartans. Even if he did mean that he is wrong. Many people (including many Scots) believe that for a tartan to be real, it has to be a Clan Tartan, but this is incorrect as tartans existed before the first Clan Tartan was produced.

The earliest were District Tartans, probably because if you happened to live in a particular district, you wore the 'district' tartan that the local weaver produced.

Since then there have been Family Tartans, Corporate Tartans, Comemorative Tartans etc., so those who are snobbish about what constitutes a true tartan are merely showing their ignorance.

Rob

Maybe somebody will explain it to him one of these days.... then again maybe not and he'll die never knowing the truth. Ignorance is bliss...aint it?

blu

[Rob]

He also told me that a kilt "made in anything less than 16oz tartan was good for nothing but a woman's skirt."Rufus

Oh dear, so my 15oz tartan kilt is really a woman's skirt. I will have to throw it out immediately, and sue my kiltmaker for selling me a skirt.

Rob

[Rufus]

Sorry to be the one that had to break it to you Rob! Best of luck with the lawsuit - maybe you can sue for emotional damage of crossdressing without your proper knowledge.

Rufus

[bubba]

Rob - I definitely detected tartan snobbery from him. He's of the "Clan tartans are the only good tartans" mindset.

Rufus

I hate to break it to him, but Clan tartans didn't come about until the Victorian period and that was started by English nobility, along with wearing alot of accessories. Even official district tartans didn't exist much before that. Tartans were whatever pattern the local weaver was making and colors depended entirely on what dyes were available in a given area. Originally, people wore whatever they could get.