Question about choice of sporrans

[phil h]

PHIL that's fighting talk, so can I be on your side, , oh I haven't written a book but I have been to Scotland so I 'm an expert

sure you can be on my side,and ur just as much an expert as the next guy.

[phil h]

if ur gunna break the rules, why does it matter if you know the rules or not?

Breaking the guidelines because you disagree with them, or feel more comfortable in attire that doesn't follow them... that is independance and individuality.
Not learning the guidelines and showing no interest in them is disrespect to a symbol of a nation.

Being independant is ok, being disrespectful is not.

Contrary to some people's belief, the kilt is NOT just a piece of cloth. It represents a nation and it's people. No, you shouldn't have to be Scottish to wear one, but you should respect them.

some people born in scotland don't fallow all the rules,nor do they know them, so why should I?
you are right when you say the kilt should be respected, more so in the company of scots.
don't get my wrong I do understand most of the so called rules, and try to learn the history of the kilt etc,just that some people can get a bit anal about it,the funny thing is , some of these people have never been to scotland,and only have a slim connection to scotland, so to make up for it, they rant and rave to the rest of us about how to wear a kilt.

[Kilt'n'Khuk]

and I say wear what you want as long as it doesn't look stupid! Next I'll look at the beginning of this thread. I have no idea of what this is all about.

[Hamish]

if ur gunna break the rules, why does it matter if you know the rules or not?
also I think the hairy NOT furry sporran is good for casual.just my 2c. like I said b4,wear what you think best,and NO this aint a bear fan club,but I'd rather follow his rules than some guy who wrote a book , and probably never even been to scotland.
(not that going to scotland matters).......................................... .................................................
I even think that some of the scots who post on this board have valid points about kilt wearing,but their word should not be taken as gospel. for instance, "don't put a kilt pin thru both aprons"
why? works for me on a windy day, also works well for jumping in and out of a car all day.

Phil,

We need to respect not only the kilt but also those people with whom we socialise or, in other ways, spend our time. So, I should like to ask you to respect the rest of us who post here, by writing your messages in an understandable language - preferably English!!!!

Also, the advice you have probably read regarding not pinning your kilt pin through both aprons, is nothing whatsoever to do with 'rules' - it is being practical. By all means do so, but please don't come crying to those of us who would advise against it, when you've ripped the fabric of your kilt by catching the pin on some obstacle or other!

[Jimmy Carbomb]

I just had a reading from the Gospel according to Hamish!

I must agree. Sure there are Scots that will wear and accessorize their kilts differently!

It's much like things in North America. Some will capitalize their sentence beginnings and spell their words with care and education.

I guess it's all a matter of honor for tradition, and a subtle show of respect for others.

[phil h]

so hamish, you an English teacher now.
"I should like to ask you to respect the rest of us who post here, by writing your messages in an understandable language - preferably English!!!!
don't you use slang?
I just type how I talk, trying to add some colour.
the word condescending comes to mind.

"It's much like things in North America. Some will capitalize their sentence beginnings and spell their words with care and education" thanx that's comming from a guy who calls himself jimmy carbomb.
also another English teacher.

[kiltimabar]

When Scotty Thompson wrote the guidebook "So You're going to Wear the Kilt" he was thinking in terms of the correct way to wear Highland attire. I think he would be amazed now to see how far from the Highlands the kilt has come, but I think he would have approved of the new trends in casual kilting, knowing that different rules apply for wearing denim jeans than for black tie, even though both involve trousers. If you are going to wear Highland attire, i.e. with all the accessories that includes, his book is still a pretty good way to avoid embarrasing yourself in front of real Scots. If some of the guests at the "Dressed to Kilt" affair in NY had read it they might have avoided some of the more ghastly embarrasments.

[bear]

I have never been embarrased to be in a casual kilt in the company of someone in full highland dress, who wears his kilt as a costume half-a-dozen times a year.
That's where the schism is in this thread. Some are arguing for kilts as costumes and some are arguing for kilts as garments.
Garments evolve with time; costumes do not.
As we are aware, growth is one of the necessities of life. Without the companies that are changing kilts to suit today's men, they would still be worn only as a costume.
Kilts began as garments and are becoming garments once again.

Following are Bear's 5 rules for wearing a kilt.
#2 through #5 are more like guidelines. #1 is just common sense.
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[Alaskan]

Bear,
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Why does someone who dresses in full highland attire automatically become someone who only wears their kilt as a costume half a dozen times a year?
Does someone in a tuxedo only wear trousers as a costume half a dozen times a year?
Can't someone dress in full highland attire for special occasions and wear a kilt casually every other day?
Why is it impossible to have an interest in the history, traditions and guidelines associated with the kilt and wear one's kilt casually at the same time?

[bubba]

bear, as I see it, kilts can be part of full highland dress for formal occasions and still be a casual garment for everyday wear. One doesn't exclude the other.Some of us are interested in the history and traditions of highland dress, but, me for one, wear kilts every day.