To buy or not to buy? That is the question.

[Mel1721L]

I hate to burst your bubble however there really is no such animal as 16oz PV. Please look at the link below:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...83#post1222283

Oh, yes. I was aware of that, it's just what they are advertised as. Illegal to misrepresent like that in the Uk, don't know about elsewhere.

[IrishSean]

I've got a 13oz Pakistani wool kilt as a cool weather "knockabout". I knew what it was going in to the purchase and I cannot say that I'm horribly disappointed -- the sett (MacGregor Modern) is smaller than the set of any of my other MacGregor kilts -- but TANSTAAFL -- it's perfectly OK for what I bought it for.

I wouldn't be too upset about Pakistani manufacture -- there's a surprising (or not) quantity of low-end "Scottish" merchandise comes from the "Highlands of Kashmir"
If the seller is well regarded, the quality should be commensurate with the price.


-Don

Don,
who did you get your 13oz.Pakistani wool kilt from? I was looking at one from UT Kilts as a reasonable compromise between a 16 oz. tank and a PVC or acrylic casual.

[Aussie_Don]

My knockabout did come from UT Kilts. There are differences -- the following pictures may give you an idea
It's just a quick and dirty set of shots roughly set to be similar size/scale. I included a tape measure to give
an idea of the sett size.

marsden-PV-Macgregor-modern.JPG This one is the Marsden Mills PV MacGregor Modern

USA-kilt-construction.jpgA bit of a construction detail of a USA Kilt semi-casual(Chosen because the "look" is intended to be similar)

UT-kilt-MacGrgor-modern.JPG UT Kilt MacGregor Modern in wool -- note the smaller sett size (sorry - the tape's a little hard to read)

UT-kilt-construction.jpg UT Kilt construction detail -- sett matching isn't as nice, over-stitching more visible, etc.

Would most people pick this -- I doubt it. And I bought this as a "pub kilt" -- they'd be less likely to pick it
in the dark.

Now, for comparison.....

locharron-mac-gregor-ancient.JPG Locharron MacGregor ancient tartan

and

dalgleish-MacGregor-reproduction.JPG Dalgleish MacGregor Reproduction tartan (Personally, my favourite MacGregor palette)


scottweb-Balmoral-detail.jpg Scottweb Balmoral 8yd construction detail -- note how the belt loop and buckle anchors disappear
and the fell stitching is invisible.

As I said in my previous post, TANSTAAFL (RA Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch)
More money does equal better kilt -- but if it's to be used in situations where it may get wrecked, then by all means look at
either one of Rocky's semi-casual kilts or one of the UT kilts. (Note: I also considered Buy-a-Kilt's acrylic offerings and I actually
do have one in Stewart Black -- the big problem for me with B-a-K is the lack of a MacGregor sett.)

Probably more of an answer than you wanted, Sorry.

-Don

[theborderer]

Like you I had minimal funds but I am pleased with my "Heritage of Wales"
th_Argyll5-1.jpg
and I ride my Quad in my kilt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuGUkuuc7c

[Mel1721L]

Like you I had minimal funds but I am pleased with my "Heritage of Wales"
th_Argyll5-1.jpg
and I ride my Quad in my kilt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuGUkuuc7c

Looks nice, but as they didn't have my size, I'm going to save up for a "Prince of Wales" tartan kilt.

[IrishSean]

Thanks, AussieDon. Those are very enlightening photos. You read a lot of negative comments on here about Pakastani products, but the pictures and your description help clarify the quality differences.

[t_challa]

I have two kilts, both PV which I bought from the same company. I am very happy with both of them. Like the OP, I do not have a lot of money at the moment, so am unable to have a 100% wool kilt made for me (although that is the dream).
Kevin train.jpgKevin dj-3.jpg
In terms of comfort and feel, I have had no complaints with either of the kilts I've bought from HOS. I am about to buy a third one from them, as their deliveries are prompt, the returns policy if you're not happy with the product is excellent and the reply to email questions extremely quickly.

[TheOfficialBren]

I'd either save my pennies for 16oz wool or order one of Rocky's casuals/semi-traditionals.

More money but a better fit, better quality.

Just my tuppence.

You can't beat heavy wool, though.

What are you chaps doing that you're worried about damading your kilts?! I would just choose a more activity-appropriate garment rather than risk my kilt in those situations.

[t_challa]

I'd either save my pennies for 16oz wool or order one of Rocky's casuals/semi-traditionals.

does he ship to the UK?

[McMurdo]

does he ship to the UK?

As far as I know he does ship to the U.K.