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4th September 14, 12:37 PM
#21
Originally Posted by duke_19_62
On my monitor, it looks purple, my mistake.
No worries, that is the danger of late night photos and computer monitors I suppose.
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4th September 14, 01:48 PM
#22
This thread goes back to the problems of trying to put boundaries on definitions. I have one plain denim kilt, which was a gift. It counts as contemporary from the fabric choice, wider pleats, low yardage, being mostly machine sewn. It counts as traditional in being high waisted, knife pleated etc.
All my other kilts are traditional: hand sewn, high waisted, worsted, tartan, kilts.
I am very rarely seen waring a kilt in an 'informal' way and most people in the UK would, I think, view this a traditional dress, but probably not here on X Marks - here are four pics of me, informally but quite traditionally dressed:
Best wishes - Harvey.
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5th September 14, 07:47 AM
#23
Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
I have been trying to work on a Modern Kilt Wear post similar to what was done for the Traditional kilt wear sticky.
But frankly I need some help.
If anyone is willing to help out please contact me via PM. I need someone to look through the forum for pics and I need some help with the writing.
Come on folks, let's finally get something up as a good guide for our other members.
Here's a thought, Steve. Can we use this thread to submit how we wear our contemporary kilts? Then you and the other editors will have some postings to consider being on the Contemporary Kilt sticky.
For instance
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One of the strengths of wearing contemporary kilts is the material and method made. I live in Virginia and currently experiencing some very hot and humid weather. Poly Viscose (PV) fabric kilts are my go to kilts on these days. I have PV USA Kilts in semi-traditional and casual styles. Today, I went with my Casual USA Kilt in XMTS tartan. I wanted less material around my waist.
This look is suitable for the office where I work. And it will be 'the bomb' when I go the Céilidh tonight at our local brewery, The Blue & Gray.
The hose are made of cotton from Sockdreams. They are cool in both ways of the word for hot summer wear. I prefer wearing flashes with them. I double them up to shorten their length.The Dixiecat bonnet is not as hot as you would think. Its my go to cover with top down driving. It has a self tie band so I can snug her down.
My shirt is seersucker blend from LL Bean. Very comfortable. The sporran is L&M. Simple and functional. I like to wear my sporran strap buckle on my ride side so it doesn't catch on the upholstery of the TR. It has become my way of wearing it all the time. That kilt pin is from the local Craft Store JoAnn's. My kilt pin of choice with nearly all my kits now.
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5th September 14, 12:28 PM
#24
Ern,
This is a perfect example of Modern Kilt Wear. You are dressed appropriately for the activity you are engaged in. You are dressed appropriately for the weather.
And you have a good 'invisibility quotient' in that while you are giving a nod to the traditional in your outfit you would blend in quite well with anyone else on the street.
This is a kilt worn as clothing.
Keep 'em coming.
Steve Ashton
www.freedomkilts.com
Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
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5th September 14, 03:35 PM
#25
Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
And you have a good 'invisibility quotient' ........
Which is totally blown by that amazing head-turning car! ;-)
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6th September 14, 02:51 AM
#26
Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
Ern,
This is a perfect example of Modern Kilt Wear. You are dressed appropriately for the activity you are engaged in. You are dressed appropriately for the weather.
And you have a good 'invisibility quotient' in that while you are giving a nod to the traditional in your outfit you would blend in quite well with anyone else on the street.
This is a kilt worn as clothing.
Keep 'em coming.
I am watching this thread with considerable interest and your comments in your post above are getting my mind working. A dangerous thing to do perhaps!
Anyway without wanting to cause upset and I hope without wanting to be sounding obtuse, two phrases cause me pause for thought.
One: "giving a nod to traditional." To my eyes the look is entirely traditional.
Two:"This is a kilt worn as clothing." Are not all kilts worn as clothing?
I am sorry, but I cannot follow your train of thought here. I wonder if you could elaborate for me?
Last edited by Jock Scot; 6th September 14 at 11:39 AM.
Reason: found my glasses-----again.
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6th September 14, 06:17 AM
#27
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
One: "giving a nod to traditional." To my eyes the look is entirely traditional.
Two:"This is a kilt worn as clothing." Are not all kilts worn as clothing?
Personally I think it's more a mindset rather than anything else. As I'm not Scottish, I feel no connection to tradition or family or Scotland in general when I wear my kilts. No sporran or flashes, and most of the time I wear t shirts and henleys and sweatshirts. They're just garments, no different to me than the cargo shorts or pants that I'd wear if I didn't have kilts in the closet. When I'm cleaning out the garage or working in the garden I look a little bit like a slob, kilted or not, but when I go to a nice dinner out or a wedding I try my best to look sharp.
A simpler way to explain it might be that I just like the way I look in a kilt it's much more comfortable than pants, but it doesn't go any deeper than that.
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6th September 14, 06:52 AM
#28
Originally Posted by Mael Coluim
Here's a thought, Steve. Can we use this thread to submit how we wear our contemporary kilts? Then you and the other editors will have some postings to consider being on the Contemporary Kilt sticky.
For instance
______________________________________________
One of the strengths of wearing contemporary kilts is the material and method made. I live in Virginia and currently experiencing some very hot and humid weather. Poly Viscose (PV) fabric kilts are my go to kilts on these days. I have PV USA Kilts in semi-traditional and casual styles. Today, I went with my Casual USA Kilt in XMTS tartan. I wanted less material around my waist.
This look is suitable for the office where I work. And it will be 'the bomb' when I go the Céilidh tonight at our local brewery, The Blue & Gray.
The hose are made of cotton from Sockdreams. They are cool in both ways of the word for hot summer wear. I prefer wearing flashes with them. I double them up to shorten their length.The Dixiecat bonnet is not as hot as you would think. Its my go to cover with top down driving. It has a self tie band so I can snug her down.
My shirt is seersucker blend from LL Bean. Very comfortable. The sporran is L&M. Simple and functional. I like to wear my sporran strap buckle on my ride side so it doesn't catch on the upholstery of the TR. It has become my way of wearing it all the time. That kilt pin is from the local Craft Store JoAnn's. My kilt pin of choice with nearly all my kits now.
Ratspike.
I hear what you are saying and fully comprehend. I wonder how you as a "full blooded contemporary kilt man" so to speak, would judge, by look mainly, as we normally only see a picture on this website, the outfit of Meal Coluim's under discussion. I have no wish to start a row here, but purely as a discussion in kilt theory, I would be very much interested in what you say.
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6th September 14, 07:27 AM
#29
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Ratspike.
I hear what you are saying and fully comprehend. I wonder how you as a "full blooded contempory kilt man" so to speak, would judge, by look mainly, as we normally only see a picture on this website, the outfit of Meal Coluim's under discussion. I have no wish to start a row here, but purely as a discussion in kilt theory, I would be very much interested in what you say.
I think he looks very sharp! I wish I looked that good in my Graham tartan. I do think that, speaking only to the photo, it's pretty solidly in line with what I think of as a more casual, traditional look. But then the backstory is basically "it's hot out, this is comfortable, I put it on, I look fantastic!", so in that case is it really so different than when I strap on a camouflage kilt and lace up my boots?
Is it the kilt itself, what it's made from and how it's constructed, or is it the way it's worn and the intent of the wearer, that is contemporary or modern or whatever. To my mind the answer is probably some combination of both, because there's a lot of crossover. In creating a visual guide it probably makes sense to break it down in such a way that all kilts are included. A traditional kilt can certainly be worn in a very modern, not-even-remotely traditional way and IMO would fit in a discussion of modern kilt wear. The sticky bit comes when you try to define where "traditional" stops and "modern" begins, because it's really a matter of opinion and personal aesthetic. One person might draw that line in a very different place than someone else.
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6th September 14, 08:01 AM
#30
Originally Posted by ratspike
I think he looks very sharp! I wish I looked that good in my Graham tartan. I do think that, speaking only to the photo, it's pretty solidly in line with what I think of as a more casual, traditional look. But then the backstory is basically "it's hot out, this is comfortable, I put it on, I look fantastic!", so in that case is it really so different than when I strap on a camouflage kilt and lace up my boots?
Is it the kilt itself, what it's made from and how it's constructed, or is it the way it's worn and the intent of the wearer, that is contemporary or modern or whatever. To my mind the answer is probably some combination of both, because there's a lot of crossover. In creating a visual guide it probably makes sense to break it down in such a way that all kilts are included. A traditional kilt can certainly be worn in a very modern, not-even-remotely traditional way and IMO would fit in a discussion of modern kilt wear. The sticky bit comes when you try to define where "traditional" stops and "modern" begins, because it's really a matter of opinion and personal aesthetic. One person might draw that line in a very different place than someone else.
Thank you Bob, your thoughts in your first paragraph do run along the same basic lines as me and, surprise surprise, our conclusions are pretty much the same, but the details may be different!
For what its worth, my basic idea of "contemporary kilts" runs along the lines of Alan H's post(no 3) in this thread on page one, even with its very own "grey areas"! I shall watch this thread with interest.
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