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4th July 16, 02:11 AM
#21
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by The Q
Though what you had was one bunch of Norman knights / Kings declareing independance from another bunch of Norman Knights / Kings. To the serfs and peasants of the day which Lord or Laird in charge of you made little difference.
You were supposed to in allegience to your Lord, which is where the Norman / English of the time kept coming unstuck, as the Norman / Scots having been engineered into the power in Scotland would promptly renage on their allegience.
A 14th century version of recent events.................
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4th July 16, 02:29 AM
#22
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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4th July 16, 04:26 AM
#23
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I'm with Jock on this one...
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give"
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill
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4th July 16, 09:03 AM
#24
I really don't know what you're talking about.
Let's hope the Norman/Mods don't either
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4th July 16, 09:39 AM
#25
Why I started this thread...
I began this thread by explaining why I wore my kilt that day. It was a group of students 11-12 years old, and I used the event to explain a bit about Scotland and its history/reputation for at least seeking independence. Most of the students could not locate Scotland, so hopefully they gained that bit of knowledge.
I told them I wore my kilt because it was Scottish, but added that the men who fought at Bannockburn did not wear kilts. I also explained a bit about my bagpipes. Overall, I used that day to give them a brief exposure to Scotland, and hopefully I created some interest.
It does seem to me that some people here relish in pointing out mistakes and correcting others for clothing and other faux pas.
I value the kilt-related information and suggestions I read here, but I do not need any pedagogical feedback from XMTS members.
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5th July 16, 12:25 AM
#26
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
Bannockburn is not widely celebrated here in Scotland, most Scots wouldn't even be able to tell you what the date of the battle was. More but by no means the majority know the date (year) of the Declaration of Arbroath.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/un...tion-lhq2qs8n8
Alan
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6th July 16, 03:06 PM
#27
Having taken the time to actually go to the most likely site of the Battlefield..which is emphatically NOT at the site of the monument... I experienced a befuzzling collision of history and the present.
There on the field where thousands died, where the burn ran red with the blood of slaughtered men and horses in "the bloody ditch", were a bunch of local kids with their bicycles, skinnydipping. A couple of little kids ambled down the burn, looking for bugs and other wonderful stuff in the water. I asked them if they knew there had been a big battle there. Yes, they knew and went on all about it in an accent which I could barely understand. The almost-teens looked at me somewhat askance. I think they were mostly bothered by Joan, as her female presence hampered the skinnydipping.
There's a farm there, and some fences. The Scots line was probably over by the trees next to the railway. Out in the middle, oddly, are some paving stones and carved rock. There must have been at some time, a structure out there.. probably Victorian.
The flowers are absolutely lovely. It was a sunny day. Off in the distance you can see Stirling castle beneath the power lines. I quite loved it.
But I didn't wear my kilt the other day, to celebrate the battle.
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