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7th September 18, 04:36 PM
#21
I wondered if the woman in the Oscar picture had her skirt on backwards - I deal more with costumes where a bustle or similar outline would be normal than with modern garments.
Anne the Pleater
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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7th September 18, 05:54 PM
#22
Originally Posted by Styckbow
To be completely honest guys I am a little shocked, yes this gentlemen was dressed inappropriately however who made us the fashion police ? He obviously spent time and money on his outfit and who among us has not made some type of fashion faux paus in our lifetime. It brings to mind a situation I came across this summer. Our local Scottish club were attending a medevil faire in Brooks and we saw a gentleman wearing his kilt backwards overtop the same furry boots this gentleman in the picture. The others in the group were pointing and laughing but I am realtivley new to kilt wearing so I took the time to talk to the fellow in question compliment his kilt and quietly mention it was on backwards. He was grateful and discretly pulled his kilt right. My point is not everyone knows what is appropriate and what is not and maybe our goal should be to educate rather than ridicule
Very good post. I have attended the Brooks REN Faire, but not for a number of years. I have on a couple of occasions at the Calgary Highland Games respectfully and privately suggested to attendees that the pleats are usually worn in the rear.
Slainte
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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7th September 18, 06:24 PM
#23
A runner-up might be the guy wearing the "Real Men Wear Kilts" t-shirt while wearing shorts at the local Ren Faire. What was his message?
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7th September 18, 06:26 PM
#24
This isn't just a fashion faux pas, where someone accidentally wears something wrong. This bloke spent some time and money on an outlandish costume, and didn't just pick these items up in a tat shop. He knew it was a costume. I would like to give him the benefit of doubt and assume he meant no offense or disrespect, but it is incumbent on everyone to understand social and cultural manners, especially when they visit foreign countries.
If a Scottish national came to the USA and visited a place like the Little Bighorn site dressed like a Cheyenne warrior, or worse, a cartoon version of a Native American, would we just dismiss it as a faux pas?
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7th September 18, 06:46 PM
#25
Originally Posted by Tobus
This isn't just a fashion faux pas, where someone accidentally wears something wrong. This bloke spent some time and money on an outlandish costume, and didn't just pick these items up in a tat shop. He knew it was a costume. I would like to give him the benefit of doubt and assume he meant no offense or disrespect, but it is incumbent on everyone to understand social and cultural manners, especially when they visit foreign countries.
If a Scottish national came to the USA and visited a place like the Little Bighorn site dressed like a Cheyenne warrior, or worse, a cartoon version of a Native American, would we just dismiss it as a faux pas?
I've seen Europeans (germans) do this very thing. They appeared to be doing it intentionally for the purpose of being insulting.
The Sioux didn't like it. Neither did we.
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7th September 18, 06:55 PM
#26
Well, I did once see a group of four Scots visiting the Gettysburg National Battlefield all dressed in their interpretation of Civil War uniforms. Complete with modern British Brown Bess muskets. (pre 9-11)
They seemed to be enjoying themselves.
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7th September 18, 09:40 PM
#27
Originally Posted by FossilHunter
Not knowing where this occurred, I cannot judge the appropriateness of dressing as a cartoon character there, but I believe that is the only thing anyone has commented on. Not whether or not his costume was an accurate portrayal of the character.
My OP was more about the inappropriateness of that outfit, including sword, being worn here SNWM.
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7th September 18, 10:31 PM
#28
Yes, this was inappropriate and disrespectful.
Yes, it's definitely Fegus from the Brave movie. Not seen it though, never will see it.
I would like to call into question the morality of this post. How is this acceptable? I mean, a photo has been taken of this guy, I'm assuming without his permission and then uploaded to a forum, without his knowledge of it being the case. We then comment on his outfit and people share their thoughts on it. Again, he doesn't know of it. Who took the photo? Isn't this in violation of something? It has to be.
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7th September 18, 10:38 PM
#29
Originally Posted by plaid preacher
I remember when the movie was nominated for the Academy Awards and the director wore a kilt in the "Brave" tartan. (It is much brighter than it appears in the movie). And there was discussion, perhaps even here, about people wanting kilts like it. It was noted that the tartan belongs to the movie... but they did note that a number of the production people took to wearing kilts around the studios - I think like a casual Friday sort of thing - as a result of being involved in the movie. Here is a photo of the director in his kilt.
Originally Posted by Tobus
I'm guessing there weren't too many people wanting that sporran, though.
Yes Tobus, I agree with you. I respectfully question his decision to wear a bright blue sporran. Why not just keep it simple and wear black? Black would have looked a lot better, it would have made the outfit smarter. The light blue sporran just causes it to clash. I can't find the words to describe his sporran, it's just so... Odd. It looks cartoonish. A brown sporran may have worked considering the brown in his tartan but black was the safest option. Bright coloured sporran just don't work. Keep it simple.
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8th September 18, 04:28 AM
#30
I believe that the couple in front of the Academy award have "people" that take care of such details or duties as which way a dress with a bustle is properly donned. But, choice of style can be over ridden by the one in front of the camera. He or she is paying the bills after all.
That said, the gent in the original photo by Peter may have felt compelled to dash through the court yard dressed the way he was. Unless he is asked (and answers) we will never know. I trust that our members, even when admitting to doubtful choices, would heed to advice that improves our stock as examples of the kilted. I say that to include all levels and trends of wearing a kilt.
Without examples to emulate, the public will choose any path they deem fit.
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