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23rd May 06, 06:14 PM
#31
 Originally Posted by Alan H
**grimaces**
I DIDN'T make that goof; tell me I didn't type that 1600. Oyyyy...
You did type the last quarter of the 1600's, but that may not be so much a goof as you might think.
There is some literary evidence that the tartan of my own family was in existence in the early 1600's. Sadly, there is no hard and fast proof, but examining written records of the time lends support to this theory. In the Vestiarium Scoticum, a document that is a matter of controversy, there is a line that reads, "Clan Lawmond hath settis lyk vnto ye Cambells, quham near to thai haue ye lyuand." It does go on to say that the main point of difference between the Lamont and the Diarmaid is that, "yn the mydward of ye ylk greine sette thai haue ane quhite sprang allanerlye".
It is suggested that this document was written circa 1571, although this date is often disputed. Colonel William Lamont wrote a defense for this early publication date, basing his theory on the spelling of the words 'Lawmond' and 'Cambell'. There are only ten occasions of the spelling of Lamont as Lawmond (with the 'w' and the 'd') after 1600 and no record of it being used after 1639, at the very latest. As for the spelling of 'Cambell' (without the 'p'), this was typical of the 16th century and very unusual after 1600.
There is also record that an alleged Lamont chief attended the mustering of the Jacobite clans around Bonnie Dundee, at Lochaber, in 1689, with his shoulders "girt in Tyrian purple". For those that have seen the images of Dave in his Lamont box-pleated kilt, this mention of purple might raise some eyebrows.
However, you did also type something about a battle at 'a moor at Dramossie'. Now that one is defintely a goof. Drummossie Moor is what you were reaching for.
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23rd May 06, 06:25 PM
#32
 Originally Posted by switchblade5984
besides ..most.. of these family and county tartans have no real meaning
Trying to pick a fight, are you?
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