My Turn To Deal With A Dress Code

[GreenDragon]

i contacted my HR dept when i first got interested in wearing a Kilt. Our company has no problem with it as there's nothing in the dress code even about it.

in fact, the other people in my group (all women, i might add) are all about me wearing mine to work. which i plan to do so on Friday. (and head to Nicholson's for lunch.)

It sucks that discrimination over such an issue even exists. i would think that there would be more intrigue over the guy wearing a kilt, rather than disgust.

[Erisianmonkey]

<snip>
As she so magnanimously said, "You can still wear kilts on your own time." Well "duh".....<snip>

That is the point where my temper would have taken over. I would've said, "How nice of you to give me permission to do something at a time when it is none of your business what I do. How dare you even think that you can say whether or not I wear kilts on my own time. Have you even noticed the problems that you have been creating here? Your sexist dress code is bad enough, now you think that I need permission from you in my personal life?"

I admit that my temper runs hot, but that "on your own time" statement crawls right up the back of my neck and yanks my gorge right up my throat.

[Dreadbelly]

That is the point where my temper would have taken over. I would've said, "How nice of you to give me permission to do something at a time when it is none of your business what I do. How dare you even think that you can say whether or not I wear kilts on my own time. Have you even noticed the problems that you have been creating here? Your sexist dress code is bad enough, now you think that I need permission from you in my personal life?"

I admit that my temper runs hot, but that "on your own time" statement crawls right up the back of my neck and yanks my gorge right up my throat.

Seconded.

[Fearnest]

Ah, but from the HR perspective (and EO/EEO laws perspective), you (as a kilt wearer) don't really have any rights. You may have been causing a "hostile work environment" in this one person's mind, and (s)he doesn't have to tell you or your boss(es) until (s)he wants to. Then the two years past is just seen as a time when (s)he has suffered through the hostile environment until it became too much to bear. (I know that's not precisely the case here, but I guess the point I'm trying to make is the "right" is with the observer in this case... even when it's "wrong.")

Your employer has to take this seriously, as failing to do so puts them at risk of legal suit (as well as you).

Just a thought. Good luck to you!

[Freedomlover]

Ron nailed the reason toward the bottom of his OP. Has no one else noticed?

[Uncle Ricky]

Ron, it sounds like this situation is right up your alley. You are a counselor, and she is in desperate need of counseling. (Tell me honey, when did you first notice these feelings of insecurity around men in kilts? Were you frightened by bagpipes as a wee child?)

No input from employees into the dress code? So the only opinion that counts is hers? Sounds fair to me..... NOT.
Perhaps she reckons that no one will mention kilts, or perhaps that someone will request that women not wear pants?

I have always envied your kilted lifestyle. I am rooting for you Ron.

Cheers,
Rick

[McClef]

Thirded.

Her attitude stinks.

[Nanook]

As a reminder, I work as a professional counselor in a rural town of 7,000 that adjoins the Navajo Nation in the Canyonlands of Arizona.

Demand that they raise their standards.

I would suggest that if you wear pants you should wear them "correctly". For day wear I would suggest culottes-- knee high breeches-- of type plus-2 or plus-4s in tartan. Paired with a tartan waistcoat, tweed day coat, full shoes (no half-boots), a proper cap and blackthorn Shillelagh in hand you would leave them breathless. For more formal affairs pull out trews, a mess jacket and don a top-hat.

I would agree with them on the need for standards of dress and suggest that women, especially those in management, not be allowed to dress like men (pants or knee skirts) nor whores (anything shorter) unless they are either pre-transexual lesbians (for sake of political correctness) or prostitutes. Point out that many people--- especially religious Christians, Muslims and Jews--- are offended by garish women (what Sheikh Taj El-Din Hamid Hilaly called "open meat"). They should set standards and these should not be of decadency and moral inconsistency.

You could, of course, just wear you kilt and start calling it a skirt. What can she do?

If they want to fire you they will fire you without regard to what you are wearing. Fired for wearing a kilt, in fact, gives you quite a bit of leverage in the courts and makes the case interesting for ACLU, press and raises the amount of money you can demand in a settlement.

[LK-13]

you might also want to point out the great AMERICAN MILITARY TRADITION
of wearing Kilts.

It begins at WEST POINT!!

a personal friend of mine Joel Harris,
has recently been accepted into the Pipe & Drum Corp. and now has the Honor of wearing their Kilt.

Tell this Person to thank all of the Kilt wearing Soldiers that Fought in Every War that has been fought to secure her FREEDOM.

this personally gets my back up!

this person knows nothing of their own history!

[walkerk]

Whoa! Déjà vu.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...8&postcount=22

Thanks to that post, Mr Griffin and I had a pleasant chat about the University of California (our employer), diversity, and dress codes. No worries here.

Good luck!