PC or regulation doublet?

**orangehaggis** · 13th June 07, 01:41 PM

Phil, it's really a cracker. I've never seen a Montrose with the Inverness skirts on it ... I think it really adds something to the look.

Mark O - Ohio

**freddie** · 13th June 07, 03:08 PM

I think this style of doublet is known as a 'Kenmore' rather than a 'Montrose'.

**thescot** · 13th June 07, 07:44 PM

In making the choice between the two, I would opt for the PC because it serves as a black tie jacket with--you guessed it--a black tie, or it can be more formal with a white tie and white waste coat. For black tie affairs, I usually wear a belt and no vest although I do have a vest.

I agree with you as to erring on the side of caution in questions of formality, so if you want to get real formal, wear a doublet as I do on those special, really formal occassions.

**Phil** · 14th June 07, 02:01 AM

I promised I would post some images of the sheriffmuir doublet

This is for informal/daywear. Note the room for an expanding beer gut! I should never have given up smoking.

This is a bit more formal. I prefer the jabot but a bow tie would be fine too

And a bit more formal again with a waistcoat(vest). My wife made this. I think she did a great job especially matching the sett.

And here is the waistcoat

This is sometimes called a Montrose doublet or a DB dress doublet in green velvet. This was the one everybody wore at one time. I have to breathe in for this one since I stopped smoking.

And lastly what I call a Montrose doublet – some call it a Kenmore. In blue velvet and looks good with either a jabot or bow tie. If it gets hot just unbutton it.

I haven’t included my PC and don’t have a regulation doublet which is pretty much a PC with the added tashes (Inverness flaps)

**Robin** · 14th June 07, 02:18 AM

My goodness! you collect jackets?

I bet even Hamish doesn't have that many

I love the Montrose doublet, but I don't have a clue when to wear it, so it's pretty much on the bottom of my wish list

**Phil** · 14th June 07, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Robin

My goodness! you collect jackets?

I bet even Hamish doesn't have that many

I love the Montrose doublet, but I don't have a clue when to wear it, so it's pretty much on the bottom of my wish list

A bit like Hamish but for the top half you think? I don't really collect jackets, the DB one I inherited and the sheriffmuir as well. The jabot is an heirloom too, it is antique Maltese lace and probably irreplaceable nowadays. And it is supposed to be that colour - something to do with the Spanish silk they used having a yellowish colour. I just bought the montrose/kenmore. All these doublets are OK for formal day and evening wear - i.e. you could wear them to a wedding or other fairly formal and can be very formal for evening wear as well whereas the PC is strictly speaking evening wear only as is the regulation doublet. I know lots of people do wear a PC to a daytime wedding but as a "dinner" jacket it should really only come out in the evening. In fact the regulation doublet was the required dress for court levees if you got an invite from the queen so seriously formal.

**Robin** · 14th June 07, 03:33 AM

if you got an invite from the queen

**kevinkinney** · 14th June 07, 09:54 AM

Phil,

Exactly how big is your closet?

Kevin.

**freddie** · 14th June 07, 02:23 PM

What a fantastic collection of jackets, and the waistcoat is brilliant. Congrat's to your wife for making it!

**Phil** · 15th June 07, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by kevinkinney

Phil,

Exactly how big is your closet?

Kevin.

Not big enough, only room for 2 kilts beside the jackets. I was really trying to point out the reasons why I think a sheriffmuir is the most versatile jacket you could have. It goes from almost casual to very formal and you don't need to worry about putting some weight on and having to go out and buy a new jacket. Also it stands out from the PC crowd a bit.