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    Quote Originally Posted by Livingston View Post
    Todd, this is probably the only subject on which I disagree with you. Clement Moore actually stole that from Henry Livingston who had written it for his family years before. Currently there is a lot of research going on that will, eventually, prove that it was written by Henry Livingston and not Clement Moore. So, I would say that Santa wears the Livingston tartan.

    Fascinating! Many thanks for posting that. According to one of the web sites above, Henry Livingston Jr. was of Scots and Dutch heritage, so I still stand by my arguement that the Dutch tartan is an appropriate one, as well as the Livingston tartan:

    http://www.iment.com/maida/familytre...abouthenry.htm

    Great Stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccga3359 View Post
    Oh, how I beg to differ. be it Maple Leaf as off season Santa resides in Canada. Bracebridge to be exact.
    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    You'll have to take that up with the Finns.

    T.
    You're both wrong; the North Pole is in Alaska.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coemgen View Post
    You're both wrong; the North Pole is in Alaska.
    Again, take that up with the Finns. I just report 'em, I don't make the decisions.

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    All great points which shows that some of you know quite a bit about the jolly ol elf, his heritage and history...or you indeed have FAR too much time on your hands and reasearch each of your posts.
    However, I fear every one of you are wrong. I will admit that you would be correct if we were talking about the kilt for who Santa WAS. But think deeply about who Santa IS.
    Last time I saw Santa, he was wearing the Dress MacPherson Tartan

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    I figure that since the closets official province to the North Pole is the Northwest Territories that Santa would wear his district tarta

    http://www.nwtpipeband.ca/nwt_tartan.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Coemgen View Post
    You're both wrong; the North Pole is in Alaska.
    According to Wiki, no one owns the North Pole (yes I said THE North Pole, not North Pole, Alaska )

    Under international law, no country currently owns the North Pole or the region of the Arctic Ocean surrounding it. The five surrounding Arctic states, Russia, the United States, Canada, Norway and Denmark (via Greenland), are limited to a 320 kilometre (200-mile) economic zone around their coasts, and the area beyond that is administered by the International Seabed Authority.
    Notice they don't mention Finland Todd? I think this is just anothe rinternal Finnish myth, like that their hockey players are better than ours

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    St. Nicholas (St. Klaus) Santa Claus was Greek, long before Byzantium became known as 'Turky".
    As Bishop of Myra in the Byzantine Empire he used his family wealth to assist the poor, often anonymously dropping bags of coins down their chimneys. He actually attended the Council of Nicea (the Nicene Creed comes from this) and is famous for his lapse in Christian Charity, when he became so enraged at the blasphemies uttered by the heretic Arius, he punched him out in front of the Emperor Constantine and his fellow Bishops!
    According to legend, Constantine confiscated Nicholas' Bible and Pallium-an insgnia worn by Bishops, but that night, Jesus and His mother Mary forgave and restored them to him - to Constantine's surprise. So, in his Icons, borth figures usually appear holding the Pallium & Book.

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    How about we just let Santa answer this one...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozman1944 View Post
    As Bishop of Myra in the Byzantine Empire he used his family wealth to assist the poor, often anonymously dropping bags of coins down their chimneys. He actually attended the Council of Nicea (the Nicene Creed comes from this) and is famous for his lapse in Christian Charity, when he became so enraged at the blasphemies uttered by the heretic Arius, he punched him out in front of the Emperor Constantine and his fellow Bishops!
    Oh, my God! Arius actually got cold-cocked by Santa Claus? Did he put a lump of coal in his stocking and then hit him over the head with it?

    That is great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Fascinating! Many thanks for posting that. According to one of the web sites above, Henry Livingston Jr. was of Scots and Dutch heritage, so I still stand by my arguement that the Dutch tartan is an appropriate one, as well as the Livingston tartan:

    http://www.iment.com/maida/familytre...abouthenry.htm

    Great Stuff!

    Todd

    This is how you can tell that Todd is a true scholar. When you disagree with him and can provide some actual information / research he is interested instead of annoyed.

    Hmmm, I wonder what kind of sporran Santa wears?

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    The Santa hanging on my tree is wearing Stewart Black.

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