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18th November 07, 10:09 AM
#31
Originally Posted by Livingston
Todd, this is probably the only subject on which I disagree with you. Clement Moore actually stole that from Henry Livingston who had written it for his family years before. Currently there is a lot of research going on that will, eventually, prove that it was written by Henry Livingston and not Clement Moore. So, I would say that Santa wears the Livingston tartan.
Fascinating! Many thanks for posting that. According to one of the web sites above, Henry Livingston Jr. was of Scots and Dutch heritage, so I still stand by my arguement that the Dutch tartan is an appropriate one, as well as the Livingston tartan:
http://www.iment.com/maida/familytre...abouthenry.htm
Great Stuff!
Todd
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18th November 07, 03:50 PM
#32
Originally Posted by ccga3359
Oh, how I beg to differ. be it Maple Leaf as off season Santa resides in Canada. Bracebridge to be exact.
Originally Posted by cajunscot
You'll have to take that up with the Finns.
T.
You're both wrong; the North Pole is in Alaska.
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18th November 07, 03:52 PM
#33
Originally Posted by Coemgen
You're both wrong; the North Pole is in Alaska.
Again, take that up with the Finns. I just report 'em, I don't make the decisions.
T.
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28th November 07, 12:22 PM
#34
All great points which shows that some of you know quite a bit about the jolly ol elf, his heritage and history...or you indeed have FAR too much time on your hands and reasearch each of your posts.
However, I fear every one of you are wrong. I will admit that you would be correct if we were talking about the kilt for who Santa WAS. But think deeply about who Santa IS.
Last time I saw Santa, he was wearing the Dress MacPherson Tartan
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28th November 07, 12:25 PM
#35
I figure that since the closets official province to the North Pole is the Northwest Territories that Santa would wear his district tarta
http://www.nwtpipeband.ca/nwt_tartan.html
Originally Posted by Coemgen
You're both wrong; the North Pole is in Alaska.
According to Wiki, no one owns the North Pole (yes I said THE North Pole, not North Pole, Alaska )
Under international law, no country currently owns the North Pole or the region of the Arctic Ocean surrounding it. The five surrounding Arctic states, Russia, the United States, Canada, Norway and Denmark (via Greenland), are limited to a 320 kilometre (200-mile) economic zone around their coasts, and the area beyond that is administered by the International Seabed Authority.
Notice they don't mention Finland Todd? I think this is just anothe rinternal Finnish myth, like that their hockey players are better than ours
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4th December 07, 08:34 AM
#36
St. Nicholas (St. Klaus) Santa Claus was Greek, long before Byzantium became known as 'Turky".
As Bishop of Myra in the Byzantine Empire he used his family wealth to assist the poor, often anonymously dropping bags of coins down their chimneys. He actually attended the Council of Nicea (the Nicene Creed comes from this) and is famous for his lapse in Christian Charity, when he became so enraged at the blasphemies uttered by the heretic Arius, he punched him out in front of the Emperor Constantine and his fellow Bishops!
According to legend, Constantine confiscated Nicholas' Bible and Pallium-an insgnia worn by Bishops, but that night, Jesus and His mother Mary forgave and restored them to him - to Constantine's surprise. So, in his Icons, borth figures usually appear holding the Pallium & Book.
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5th December 07, 01:42 PM
#37
How about we just let Santa answer this one...
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5th December 07, 01:49 PM
#38
Originally Posted by Ozman1944
As Bishop of Myra in the Byzantine Empire he used his family wealth to assist the poor, often anonymously dropping bags of coins down their chimneys. He actually attended the Council of Nicea (the Nicene Creed comes from this) and is famous for his lapse in Christian Charity, when he became so enraged at the blasphemies uttered by the heretic Arius, he punched him out in front of the Emperor Constantine and his fellow Bishops!
Oh, my God! Arius actually got cold-cocked by Santa Claus? Did he put a lump of coal in his stocking and then hit him over the head with it?
That is great!
Best
AA
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5th December 07, 02:34 PM
#39
Originally Posted by cajunscot
Fascinating! Many thanks for posting that. According to one of the web sites above, Henry Livingston Jr. was of Scots and Dutch heritage, so I still stand by my arguement that the Dutch tartan is an appropriate one, as well as the Livingston tartan:
http://www.iment.com/maida/familytre...abouthenry.htm
Great Stuff!
Todd
This is how you can tell that Todd is a true scholar. When you disagree with him and can provide some actual information / research he is interested instead of annoyed.
Hmmm, I wonder what kind of sporran Santa wears?
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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5th December 07, 04:22 PM
#40
The Santa hanging on my tree is wearing Stewart Black.
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