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                                                8th December 07, 10:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Well, as silly as this thread got, I'm glad the Buddhists have a tartan, and it sounds like a very nice one too.
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                                                9th December 07, 12:38 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	That reminds me of a joke I heard:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by kallen   wouldn't a Buddist tartan have to incorperate all tartans? 
for they are "one with everything"  
 Q: What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
 A: "Make me one with everything."
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 07, 04:44 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					One of my Buddhist teachers once told me that to make Buddhist clothing, one way is to use fabric from old clothing that I don't wear anymore (or from thrift-store clothes), so I don't waste that fabric.  I'd like to do that with a kilt, but I doubt I'll be able to find much clothing made of 13+ oz. worsted wool.
 So my second-best idea is to find a Buddhist tartan.
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 07, 08:54 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			OT: saffron & Protestants...
		
			
				
					
	I wonder if those individuals have met any members of the Irish Air Corps Pipe Band?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Fedgunner   Not to be a tosser here...
 In another forum, I was informed that anyone who was not a protestant, observed wearing a saffron kilt (In Ireland) would bring forth calls for blood.
 
 I hurt some feelings when I complained.
 
 http://www.iacpb.org/home.htm
 
 These gents seem to play a lot "south of the border" with no problems.
 
 No doubt there are more than a few RCs in their ranks. You might mention to these individuals that pipers in the Defence Forces of the Irish Republic wear saffron.
 
 T.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 07, 11:00 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	exactly where I borrowed it from.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Coemgen   That reminds me of a joke I heard:
 Q: What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
 A: "Make me one with everything."
 "A sharp knife is nothing without a sharp eye"-Koloth
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 07, 12:05 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					The only thing I have with it, is calling it "The Buddhist Tartan."  This is one temple from one Tibetan sect and their lay supporters.  While I think it's great, Buddhism is far to big and diverse to be blanketed in one tartan.  This temple, the Tibetans and even the D.L. are not all of Buddhism.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 07, 12:49 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					True, but that's all they got.  Well, they did talk about the saffron, being ok.  I've lost touch with all my Buddhist friends, so I can't ask them.  Guess that's the way it goes...  Oh, guess they also have that five element tartan too, that was more of the Buddhist tartan.  Three ain't bad.
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Toddo   The only thing I have with it, is calling it "The Buddhist Tartan."  This is one temple from one Tibetan sect and their lay supporters.  While I think it's great, Buddhism is far to big and diverse to be blanketed in one tartan.  This temple, the Tibetans and even the D.L. are not all of Buddhism. 
				
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					Reason: Forgot some stuff.
				
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                                                9th December 07, 01:18 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It would be the same as trying to do a general 'Christian' Tartan. We would have to have a Catholic tartan, a Methodist, a Presbyterian, Church of England, Baptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Assemblies of God, etc. and on and on.  Buddhism also has many 'Variations'. So probably each would have to do their own.
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                9th December 07, 01:36 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Earlier, I suggested a general spiritual tartan.  I know the Baptist side of the family wouldn't want the same tartan as the Cathlic side of the family...  The atheist side of the family is too busy laughing at the guys in the skirts to care.  Kind of sounds like the rest of the world.
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                                                9th December 07, 03:34 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	That's true. It is a Buddhist tartan, not the only possible one.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Toddo   The only thing I have with it, is calling it "The Buddhist Tartan."  This is one temple from one Tibetan sect and their lay supporters.  While I think it's great, Buddhism is far to big and diverse to be blanketed in one tartan.  This temple, the Tibetans and even the D.L. are not all of Buddhism. 
 In fact the one for lay people shows some features that are more unique to vajrayana. The five colors of the Tibetan spectrum---red, blue, green, yellow and white---represent the five afflictive emotions that can be transformed into the five wisdoms through the practice of tantra. For some reason this was chosen rather than a white- or white and dark red-themed tartan that would use the colors of the lay yogins in Tibetan Buddhism. Perhaps it was so that non-yogin lay people would appropriately wear it. The various shades of red of the monks' and nuns' tartan represents the freshly dyed saffron of the renunciant's robes, whose vows are not the tantric ones.
 
 As was noted, in some parts of the Buddhist world, saffron and dark red are never worn by lay people. In some parts, such as SE Asia, the practicing lay people wear white. In China the ordained wear gray and yellow, in Japan there is black, brown and gold, and a host of other color combos. So, there could be all sorts of Buddhist tartans. But this is the only only identified as such so far, that we know of.
 
				
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