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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Mr. MacDougall
My monitor is kind of dark... is that Black Stewart?
It's not Black Stewart. Here is the original thread:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/p...x.html?t=26611
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Woodsheal
Wearing a kilt for the shooting events wouldn't look right, IMO, but dressing as a travelling, or "touring," Scottish gent for the "social" events - dances, dinners, whatnot - would be unique. Something like this:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/BCarp/fig8.gif)
That's a very similar outfit to those in the aforementioned Western Caledonian society photos.
T.
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I apologize for taking this off (Off) topic but when did horse hair sporrans become strictly a Military/Piper convention?
Cheers
Jamie
Last edited by Panache; 6th May 08 at 10:08 PM.
Reason: spelling
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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As for Scots and the old West, in addition to being a kilt addict I'm a True West Maniac (That's a western magazine for them that don't know).
My grandfather Murdoch Macdonald was born and grew up around southwest Montana - Virginia City, Norris, McAllister (before it was flooded when the dam was built), Pony area. His father, my great-grandfather Archibald Macdonald was in the Bodie, California census of 1880. He'd come from Cape Breton Island to mine around Cripple Creek, Colorado, then apparently to Bodie and eventually up to Southwestern Montana in the late 1800s and early 1900s. He died of silicosis and cirhossis...a combination of hard living miner's diseases.
Murdoch wrote me about his father back in 1970, "Your great-grandfather always seemed to collect a braw lot of Scots about him, largely right from Scotland; highlanders for the most part...like MacDougall, McGreagor, Brebnor, Calder, Mather, Matteson, Chisolm - as I recall a few of them. Their conversations with their rolling r-r-r-r-rs would warm your heart.
Your great-grandfather Macdonald [Archibald], was a grand old Scot himself, with slightly short fuse and a quick, hard fist when any of the miners (lots of Cousin Jacks, Cornishmen) who on pay day, and with a few snorts of horse linament under their belts, decided to throw their weight around.
One Scot in particular (a lowlander) but one of Father's very best friends; Davy Mather the bagpiper - and what a piper he was. He had enough medals pinned on a large sheet of velvet to make a good load for a strong man - medals he'd won in Scotland and in this country, for his piping and Scotish dancing. Three special medals were awarded him by Queen Victoria - they were beauties. Davy Mather won the piping contest in the Highland Games in Seattle since we've been in Portland even with old age catching up with him. He died several years ago back in Montana."
So there's a fair lot of Scots in the wild west of the Southwestern Montana mountains.
Here's an undated old pic. The backside is labeled
Caption on back says L-r Alex Brebner Alex Macdougall Archie (A.G.) Macdonald
Picture taken at MacDougall's cabin on Richmond Flats, Montana near Revenue Mine. MacDougall mining partner of Dave Mather bagpiper World Champion piper for many years. MacDougall one time member of Queen Victoria's Guards.
![](http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff147/riverkilt/Genealogy/AlexBrebnerAlexMacDougallArchieMacd.jpg)
So, there's plenty of precedent for Scots in the Old West and up in that part of Montana there was some hard core vigilante work afoot for a while.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
What a super photo!
I have a somewhat similar photograph of my Austrian Grandmother taken in Montana, in the USA, around 1895. I'm sure this will encourage Lady Rathdown no end as she is both into costuming and marksmanship.
Now if I can just get the CAS folks to reply...
Glad to have inspired her.
Diane had never used a pistol before, but she hit the bullseye on the second shot. (I think the picture ended up in Shoot! magazine.)
Seeing all the pictures and hearing some of the stuff here has made me considering getting involved.
I know there is a 'Western Re-enactment' group near where I live in Scotland.
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Arlen
I know there is a 'Western Re-enactment' group near where I live in Scotland.
Would that be the Glasgow Rangers... sorta like the Texas Rangers? ![Smile](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
FYI y'all I'm off to a CAS rendezvous on Saturday so will "see the elephant" for myself and decide what sort of hardware is needed if I decide to get involved.
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This thread goes to prove that the mythic American (& Canadian) West continues to fascinate!
There are some completely intriguing characters that get overshadowed.
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I don't want to get into politcs here,but for every one's information, we in the UK had to surrender our legally held pistols some years ago.I could go on,but perhaps not. ![Evil or Very Mad](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
JockScot--
I do believe that with a proper license it is perfectly legal to own the black powder cap and ball revolvers in the UK.
Wear your kilt proudly, but carry a big stick
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Brasilikilt
JockScot--
I do believe that with a proper license it is perfectly legal to own the black powder cap and ball revolvers in the UK.
Yes, that's quite correct ,providing you have a firearms certificate with it entered there.There are one or two other minor exceptions too,but in reallity there are now very few legally held hand guns in the UK.
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When the handgun ban came into effect it was breathtaking in its reach. At Wilkinson Sword we were required to surrender all of the pistols in our museum, despite the fact that we held RFD License #17! The reason given was two fold: (1) as a "private" museum we were not exempt (although the law made no specific difference between private and public museums) and (2) although we were registered as firearms dealers (RFD) the sale of firearms was not our primary business and therefore the license was considered to be a "mere excuse" for the holding of prohibited firearms.
Like Jock Scot said there really are now very few legally held handguns in the UK.
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