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28th July 10, 07:17 PM
#31
Last summer when I visited Scotland, I wore my Malcolm tartan tank when with the Clan Malcolm MacCallum, my Robertson 5 yarder when I was with the Donnachaidhs and when I wasn’t with either I usually wore my Newsome box pleat for sheer comfort.
The only grief I got about the box pleat and the five yarder was from my dear friend, Redshanks. But, damn he takes good photos!
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28th July 10, 07:49 PM
#32
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Mael Coluim
... he takes good photos!
Tru dat. Thanks for posting! You should learn to keep your hose up though.
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29th July 10, 05:14 AM
#33
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
...I suspect that Scottish aversion to box pleats may be, rather, a vast Victorian conspiracy! ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Or not. All of the kilts in Kenneth MacLeay's Highlanders of Scotland series of watercolors commissioned by Queen Victoria herself were box pleated (though made with closer to 5 or 5.5 yards).
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29th July 10, 08:48 AM
#34
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
...I suspect that Scottish aversion to box pleats may be, rather, a vast Victorian conspiracy! ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
Or not. All of the kilts in Kenneth MacLeay's Highlanders of Scotland series of watercolors commissioned by Queen Victoria herself were box pleated (though made with closer to 5 or 5.5 yards).
![](http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/pancelticpiper/highlanders6.jpg)
You and your historiosity are a wet blanket for millions who also believe in Bigfoot, Roswell, and the Grassy Knoll Theory. Thanks for ruining my day. ![Crying or Very sad](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif)
EDIT: I'd like to note that in the beginning of Victoria's reign, low yardage box pleated kilts were the standard, and most kilts were constructed so. By the end of her reign, the high yardage knife pleated kilt was nearly universal. The truth is out there...
Last edited by Ryan Ross; 29th July 10 at 09:22 AM.
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29th July 10, 08:50 AM
#35
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
... (though made with closer to 5 or 5.5 yards).
Now this is an oddness. It would seem to me that tree layers of fabric in the back and two in the front is what a box pleated kilt must contain. Add in a yard for deep pleats and such and that comes to about four yards (possibly less) in my admittedly inexperienced reckoning. How does one fit even more material into a box pleated kilt?
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29th July 10, 09:04 AM
#36
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by xman
Now this is an oddness. It would seem to me that tree layers of fabric in the back and two in the front is what a box pleated kilt must contain. Add in a yard for deep pleats and such and that comes to about four yards (possibly less) in my admittedly inexperienced reckoning. How does one fit even more material into a box pleated kilt?
Extra overlap inside each box pleat. A kilt made this way will look knife pleated, from the inside.
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29th July 10, 11:20 AM
#37
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
Extra overlap inside each box pleat. A kilt made this way will look knife pleated, from the inside.
Mais bien sur, merci.
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29th July 10, 11:45 AM
#38
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by xman
Now this is an oddness. It would seem to me that tree layers of fabric in the back and two in the front is what a box pleated kilt must contain. Add in a yard for deep pleats and such and that comes to about four yards (possibly less) in my admittedly inexperienced reckoning. How does one fit even more material into a box pleated kilt?
You can make a box pleated kilt from any (well, within reason) amount of cloth, just like you can a knife pleated kilt. Indeed, the modern "military box pleated kilt" is just a box pleated kilt made with much more cloth.
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30th July 10, 01:16 AM
#39
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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30th July 10, 04:32 AM
#40
Sasquatch in Spotsylvania!
Me too, Terry!
Now back to normal programming.
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