Review my attire

[Mike_Oettle]

As the owner of a red shirt that I wear to church perhaps three times a year (on appropriate occasions) I must defend Tiny’s choice in that regard.
It may be a little loud, but he’s not going to wear it every Sunday, after all.
(Not currently owning a kilt, I have not worn the red shirt in that garb, but I plan to, as the tartan I have my eye on has a fair amount of red.)

Like several of the folk here, I am uncomfortable with the Argyle sweater (it’s what we call a sleeveless sweater), both because of its colouring/patterning and because of its lack of adaptability (you can’t unbutton it if the weather hots up).
But I like the blue shirt and matching socks. That outfit could have looked a bit better with red flashes, but flashes are not obligatory.
The red flashes with green socks (hose, if you insist!) worked as well.

Another comment that cropped up was the “tartan sandwich” – this can be overdone. But I have seen pictures of more than one member here with either socks or flashes that match the kilt, and a top that also matches. They looked pretty classy!
It boils down to having a look at yourself in the mirror before going out, and not to blindly following rules (whether they demand co-ordination or avoid it altogether).
A Facebook friend of mine who lives in a Scottish castle proudly wears a waistcoat (vest, to you folk across the Atlantic) in a black and red tartan (ancestral, but not linked to his paternal house) with a kilt in his own family tartan.
I rather like that look, and I have hopes of similarly owning a tartan weskit that is not the same tartan as any kilt I might wear.

In closing, a remark about ties: I generally wear a tartan tie with a plain shirt, or a tartan-type shirt with a plain tie (when I wear a tie at all).
My wife gave me a navy blue shirt with red and white tartan stripes for my birthday, and I have worn it to church with a herringbone tie (in blue, white and black).
My plain ties don’t go with it. I have one tie (with a repeated coat of arms on it) that goes with it, but when I tried to put it on yesterday it wouldn’t go on right – and like Tiny, I didn’t have time to fix it. So I put the herringbone on again. I don’t feel out of place, even though my wife objected to the combination.
Regards,
Mike

[Jock Scot]

Interesting thoughts on tartan ties Mike. There are those that would not be seen dead with a tartan tie when wearing a tartan kilt! Each to their own!!!!!!!!

[Mike_Oettle]

Well, Jock, as you may have noticed, I did say that I don’t currently have a kilt.
But I have no problem with tartan in more than one place in an outfit.
At my third camp with the regiment, we were able to purchase regimental ties (tartan) as well as a regimental history. I bought both, and just to spite the South African Army I burnt my khaki tie before I left.
We were told the tartan tie was to be worn with civilian dress – they encouraged us to wear it with the regimental blazer on Saturday mornings – but since I no longer had an army tie, I wore the tartan one with my kilt for the rest of my days with the regiment.
I probably got away with it because all our parades after that were in bush uniform, not kilts. But I did travel to camp in the kilt at least once afterwards.
And I wore it with such pride that I did give thought to proposing to the commanding officer that it be made uniform.
At the time all sorts of uniform innovations were being made, and I would not have been surprised if ties in unit or corps colours had been introduced. After all, the tie is no longer part of a field uniform.
My second regimental tie is now in such a state that I ought to replace it. And I might well wear it with a kilt of a different tartan.
Regards,
Mike

[Jock Scot]

A tartan regimental tie? That is a new one on me, but that is how your army do it and in my book, that must be respected by all. All I am saying, is that there are those that do not wear tartan ties(particularly different clan tartans) under any circumstances with their clan tartan kilt. How they would react to the South African regimental tie conundrum poses an interesting question for them!LOL

[artificer]

A tartan regimental tie? That is a new one on me, but that is how your army do it and in my book, that must be respected by all. All I am saying, is that there are those that do not wear tartan ties(particularly different clan tartans) under any circumstances with their clan tartan kilt. How they would react to the South African regimental tie conundrum poses an interesting question for them!LOL

Totally OT, but Jock, you're teetering on 5K posts! One more pushes you over.

OKAY, Here goes...

I'd like to wear my Madras shirt with a bolo tie (which has a tartan insert in the clasp) a fly plaid, kilt, PC, and white hose!

(runs for cover)ith:

[Jock Scot]

Totally OT, but Jock, you're teetering on 5K posts! One more pushes you over.

OKAY, Here goes...

I'd like to wear my Madras shirt with a bolo tie (which has a tartan insert in the clasp) a fly plaid, kilt, PC, and white hose!

(runs for cover)ith:

You sir, are a very mischievious man!

[artificer]

You sir, are a very mischievious man!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Jock Scot's 5000th post!

As to my mischievousness, thank you, it's a gift.

[Mike_Oettle]

Jock, you surprise me, saying that a tartan tie is a new one on you.
I can’t speak with authority, but I believe that members of kilted units generally wear tartan ties when in civvies.
Certainly the London Regiment does:
http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar....aspx?ref=2198
Regards,
Mike

[Jock Scot]

Jock, you surprise me, saying that a tartan tie is a new one on you.
I can’t speak with authority, but I believe that members of kilted units generally wear tartan ties when in civvies.
Certainly the London Regiment does:
http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar....aspx?ref=2198
Regards,
Mike

A tartan UK REGIMENTAL tie is a new one on me, yes indeed. I did not serve in a Scots Regiment though and try as I might I cannot recall a UK tartan regimental tie. Generally speaking the "old School" will not wear a tartan tie with the kilt, it is rather illogical really as many of them will turn out at dress events wearing splendid tartan waistcoats or tartan dress jackets with their kilts.

Just so you know,it is regarded by most in Scotland(wisely) and all in the Highlands(even more wisely) that wearing different tartans of DIFFERENT CLANS at the same time is an absolute no no.

[Tiny]

I just love your "British understatement"!!!!!! "--a touch too much red------"!!!! Good gracious me, THAT shirt is way, way, WAY too much!!! Shirts really need to be a low key affair, so that it plays "second fiddle" to the tartan, not the lead part!That is why Tattersall shirts are so useful, although, for me, I think that a white shirt for church would be more the norm in the UK.

I still think you are fussing far too much over this matching business.

Your kilt height looks much better though. A tad higher still, perhaps?

I really think that you are great in the way you let us pick holes(in a friendly and constructive way, I hope) in your outfit and I think these conversations are of great help to all those trying to grasp the mysteries of kilt attire.Thank you so much.

I'll admit that the 10 looks 1 kilt thread is great in showing how it's done right, however even after looking at all those great look it's still sometimes hard to understand why they are right. I feel threads like this help us all understand what makes it look right and what can throw it off. I know I've learned alot from this forum and I'm presenting myself much better now then when I first strapped on my kilt. I've always been one to cordinate colors and it's taking me a bit to relax on that point.

I may have an update prior to the weekend of a more casual nature as a critique in general a helpfull exercise.

Again thanks for everyone advice and insight.