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[Joseph McMillan]

[*]my gf, the eldest, would probably be undifferenced (although his parents didn't marry until later. Depends on how strictly Lyon interprets the rule of illegitimacy. At times, the birth was later deemed to be legitimate if the parents wed.)

By rights, he should determine legitimacy according to the laws of the place and time where they lived. Under Scots law, children have always been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents.

[Morris at Heathfield]

Arms: Sable, a vacuum chamber passant regardant proper, flanged or, on a viewport of the first a mullet of eight points purpure.

Crest: A mullet of eight points purpure.

Motto: A potentia astrali ad astra.

[JSFMACLJR]

Quarterly, 1st, Argent, a rock Gules; 2nd, Or, a dexter hand fesswise couped Gules holding a cross crosslet fitchee in pale Azure; 3rd, Or, on a sea undy Azure and Argent a lymphad sails furled oars in saltire Sable flagged Gules; 4th, Argent, in chief two eagles' heads respectant erased Gules beaked and eyed Azure, in base a salmon naiant Proper, overall a cross raguly Sable charged at the centre with a maple leaf and in chief and in base with two fleurs de lys Or and in the flanks with two salmon naiant Argent, a bordure indented Vert. Above the Shield is placed an Helm befitting his degree with a Mantling Gules doubled Argent, and on a wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a beaver sejant erect holding- in its dexter paw a Lochaber axe Proper, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "SEEK HONOUR BY DOING GOOD."

[creagdhubh]

Quarterly, 1st, Argent, a rock Gules; 2nd, Or, a dexter hand fesswise couped Gules holding a cross crosslet fitchee in pale Azure; 3rd, Or, on a sea undy Azure and Argent a lymphad sails furled oars in saltire Sable flagged Gules; 4th, Argent, in chief two eagles' heads respectant erased Gules beaked and eyed Azure, in base a salmon naiant Proper, overall a cross raguly Sable charged at the centre with a maple leaf and in chief and in base with two fleurs de lys Or and in the flanks with two salmon naiant Argent, a bordure indented Vert. Above the Shield is placed an Helm befitting his degree with a Mantling Gules doubled Argent, and on a wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest a beaver sejant erect holding- in its dexter paw a Lochaber axe Proper, and in an Escrol over the same this Motto "SEEK HONOUR BY DOING GOOD."

And your arms are quite superb Sandy!

[EagleJCS]

By rights, he should determine legitimacy according to the laws of the place and time where they lived. Under Scots law, children have always been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents.

I suspected as much. I suppose, then, I should get used to the idea of a bordure compony ... I'm not ashamed of my g-grandfather (I never knew him, and my Dad barely remembers him), but I am of his behavior - long story short, he was a cad. My gf tried to obfuscate the facts, but with a little digging and some simple math, it came out (just a few years ago, but well after he passed).

I suppose I (or a lawyer) will have to research the case law of the time for the jurisdiction(s) in question (US, KY, IL) to determine his legitimacy. There was/is no question of paternity, just whether or not his birth was made legitimate by the subsequent marriage of his parents at a later date.

Thanks for the responses, Cygnus & Joseph!

[EagleJCS]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph McMillan
By rights, he should determine legitimacy according to the laws of the place and time where they lived. Under Scots law, children have always been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents.

I suppose I (or a lawyer) will have to research the case law of the time for the jurisdiction(s) in question (US, KY, IL) to determine his legitimacy. There was/is no question of paternity, just whether or not his birth was made legitimate by the subsequent marriage of his parents at a later date.

Thanks for the responses, Cygnus & Joseph!

Resurrecting a post from WAYYY back...

YAY! I now have it on good authority that my gf was legitimate, at least in the eyes of the law (in KY anyway). A lawyer friend of mine found the applicable KY statute and a couple of similar cases predating my gf's birth. We still aren't 100% certain he was born in KY (no birth certificate was filed in KY at or shortly after the time of his birth).

[Cygnus]

WVHighlander, don't let my crude attempt at making a template stop you - do you have the blazon or a description? Those are good enough for me!

[WVHighlander]

If I could have my druthers...

Coat of Arms: Azure, a fess raguly gules between in chief, a cross moline sable between two ravens observant of the same, and in base a bear rampant of the third.

Crest: A gryphon passant sable, holding a sword proper

Motto: Ego planto mea fortuna (I make my own fate.)

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

If I could have my druthers...

Coat of Arms: Azure, a fess raguly gules between in chief, a cross moline sable between two ravens observant of the same, and in base a bear rampant of the third.

Crest: A gryphon passant sable, holding a sword proper

Motto: Ego planto mea fortuna (I make my own fate.)

Unfortunatley this won't fly, because it violates the first rule of armoury; that being that you can not place colour upon colour. If you change the shield from azure (blue) to or (gold) or argent (silver) then you are off and away!

[Cygnus]

Unfortunatley this won't fly, because it violates the first rule of armoury; that being that you can not place colour upon colour. If you change the shield from azure (blue) to or (gold) or argent (silver) then you are off and away!

Or you could make it a fess raguly Gules fimbriated Argent (or Or).

Not something you see very often, but it would solve the problem.