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1st September 11, 10:01 AM
#31
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Cowher
These reactions are interesting!
We talk about tartan, kilts (modern verses traditional) and what that means. We speak of rolled up sleeves, button down collars, a coat of arms and white hose.
Flame wars erupt. People get angry. Line are drawn and it gets rough.
People are very protective of Scottish highland dress. But deface a castle and we get "well it's his castle." or "I find it charming"..
I find this hilarious! I shall go back to work now for my lunch is over.
Cheers!
There is a practical side to all this that really renders the kilt analogy redundant.
The fact is that - as with many historic buildings - internally Kelburn is in a bad way. What the Earl of Glasgow has done is generate publicity, and therefore revenue.
It is all well and good to talk of dignity and respect for history. But when it comes to bricks and mortar, money trumps everything. Maybe the earl simply decided that it was the choice between trying something different and generating some much needed extra cash, or maintaining the building's outward integrity whilst through lack of investment watching it slowly but surely collapse from the inside out.
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1st September 11, 10:43 AM
#32
I agree with: "A matter of taste...hum...looks like something out of Disneyland" but if that's graffiti, they can come do my fences too. Nice art work, even if not to some people's taste, especially on the choice of "canvass." Are there children's rides?
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1st September 11, 11:08 AM
#33
Well Harumph! I think it's fantastic! ![Smile](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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1st September 11, 11:12 AM
#34
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Cowher
These reactions are interesting!
We talk about tartan, kilts (modern verses traditional) and what that means. We speak of rolled up sleeves, button down collars, a coat of arms and white hose.
Flame wars erupt. People get angry. Line are drawn and it gets rough.
People are very protective of Scottish highland dress. But deface a castle and we get "well it's his castle." or "I find it charming"..
I find this hilarious! I shall go back to work now for my lunch is over.
Cheers!
That is what I was thinking...except lunch was over 2 hours ago.
From the article, it seems that local residents do not find it as charming.
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1st September 11, 11:41 AM
#35
It makes me want to HARL! But seriously,if it has to be "re-harled" every so often, does that men the old harl sluffs off after a time? If so, wouldnt the paint come off with the harling? Problem solved.
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1st September 11, 12:37 PM
#36
It looks to me like they had to paint the surface white before applying the murals...
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1st September 11, 12:38 PM
#37
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by kilted hillbilly
It makes me want to HARL! But seriously,if it has to be "re-harled" every so often, does that men the old harl sluffs off after a time? If so, wouldnt the paint come off with the harling? Problem solved.
Yup, that's exactly what happens. Due to expansion/contraction caused by heat/cold tiny cracks do appear in the harl. These cracks admit water, which builds up between the harl and the fabric of the castle. Eventually these pockets of water freeze, and chunks of harl pop off. While these holes can be patched, eventually the building has to be re-harled.
It's been years since I was last at Kelburn, so I haven't a clue as to the condition of the fabric of the building. That said I suspect that the murals would have a predictable life of between 5 and 10 years.
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1st September 11, 01:01 PM
#38
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Yup, that's exactly what happens. Due to expansion/contraction caused by heat/cold tiny cracks do appear in the harl. These cracks admit water, which builds up between the harl and the fabric of the castle. Eventually these pockets of water freeze, and chunks of harl pop off. While these holes can be patched, eventually the building has to be re-harled.
It's been years since I was last at Kelburn, so I haven't a clue as to the condition of the fabric of the building. That said I suspect that the murals would have a predictable life of between 5 and 10 years.
Cluny's (my chief) Newton Castle in Blairgowrie, Perthshire, has this problem at times. Beautiful structure nonetheless.
Last edited by creagdhubh; 30th September 11 at 12:40 PM.
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1st September 11, 01:05 PM
#39
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Cowher
These reactions are interesting!
We talk about tartan, kilts (modern verses traditional) and what that means. We speak of rolled up sleeves, button down collars, a coat of arms and white hose.
Flame wars erupt. People get angry. Line are drawn and it gets rough.
People are very protective of Scottish highland dress. But deface a castle and we get "well it's his castle." or "I find it charming"..
I find this hilarious! I shall go back to work now for my lunch is over.
Cheers!
Ah, but you forget that while everyone may debate the finer points of hose colour, in the end, the owner of the feet in question may clad them in in any colour or pattern he chooses. Same goes with shirt, collars, etc. ![Laughing](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
The one exception would be Scottish heraldry, which we all know is governed by Lord Lyon.
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28th September 11, 10:32 AM
#40
Re: The disrespect turns my stomach.
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Taygrd
I actually heard about this on NPR, torn between a homeowners right and preserving history. The paint job does not raise my eyebrow as much as the Brazilian flag flying above the St Andrews in Scotland? ![Shocked](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
you are so right...that really does take the cake.
oops, sorry to be a gravedigger, guys. I got to poking through old threads and realized this has been inactive for awhile.
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