singlemalt advice

**Spartan Tartan** · 5th April 12, 07:25 PM

Just reading this earlier sent me to the liquor cabinet to pour a dram of my favorite Scotch. It was definitely worth it and I will continue to learn so I can someday appreciate Scotch of this caliber. Then, I can justify having it...even if it is tucked away at the back of my cabinet

**ForresterModern** · 8th April 12, 07:04 PM

Out to dinner with the family and a new partner and her mate---great meal, great company, great time. Also happened to finish off the bar's last bottle of Glenlivet XXV which was pretty nice, bordering on spectacular. Got it for a discount as it was the end of the bottle, and well worth the effort. Very very nice. Might want to keep an eye out for a bottle if the price is right.

**mookien** · 8th April 12, 08:12 PM

Jeff: Quite a find. Good for you! That's a Pavlovian story that has me thinking about the little scotch bar downstairs. I have never tasted the 25, though I have had the 21 (Archive). It is wonderful.

I just saw a bottle of the 25 on the web from NYC for ONLY $380. I better snatch it up before you beat me to it. Maybe I'll buy a case, just in case ... I win the lottery.

John

**ForresterModern** · 9th April 12, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by mookien

Jeff: Quite a find. Good for you! That's a Pavlovian story that has me thinking about the little scotch bar downstairs. I have never tasted the 25, though I have had the 21 (Archive). It is wonderful.

I just saw a bottle of the 25 on the web from NYC for ONLY $380. I better snatch it up before you beat me to it. Maybe I'll buy a case, just in case ... I win the lottery.

John

John

They had a very limited scotch collection of mostly standards, a few blends, Glenfiddich, Glenmorangie, Dalwhinnie, Macallan, Balvenie DW, Glenlivet 12 and 15, then this bottle high on the shelf of the Glenlivet XXV. I could not find a price on their drinks list so I took a flyer hoping I was not going to be gouged for it and asked for a double neat of the XXV. When the waitress returned with what was clearly at least a double, she said it was the last of the bottle and the barmaid was not convinced it was a full double so she only charged me the single fee ($32) as it was the last of what they had and what they hardly ever sold. Easily a double, maybe a triple by most standards, so no complaints from me. Have not done the research for a bottle cost yet but I would wager your pricing is probably right on.

Very nice bottle, one of the best Glenlivets I have tried yet.

**mookien** · 11th April 12, 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=ForresterModern;1083368 ... When the waitress returned with what was clearly at least a double, she said it was the last of the bottle and the barmaid was not convinced it was a full double so she only charged me the single fee ($32) as it was the last of what they had and what they hardly ever sold. Easily a double, maybe a triple by most standards, so no complaints from me. ...[/QUOTE]

How good was that deal! Well, let's do a little arithmetic. A bottle of malt holds about 18 drams (assuming a "dram" is a shot, or 1.5 ounces). Incidentally, that's also the canonical number of drams necessary to drink one dram per hole during a round of golf.

Now, it has been my observation that most establishments charge about 5 times the retail price of a bottle of single malt, when served per dram at the bar or table. While that seems to be true for most "average" priced malts, for expensive malts like the Glenlivet 25 they probably cannot get away with that large a mark up, because nobody would pay that high price. Witness the lonely bottle "high on the shelf". So, let's say they mark up a bottle of "expensive" scotch by a factor of "only" 2.

That makes the $380 dollar bottle of 25 GL worth $760, when sold by the dram. That works out to be $760/18 drams, or about $42 per dram. So, if you got a double, you would have received $84 worth of scotch for $32. That's very good. And, if you got a triple it's even 50% better! Good work, Jeff! I wanna go drinkin' with you.

By the way, I saw a bottle of GL 25 for ONLY $379. The price is plummeting fast. At that rate I'll be able to afford a bottle in about a year.

**chemist93** · 28th April 12, 08:26 PM

For a bartender with a budget, Glen Garioch, The Singleton, Glenfiddich, Dalwhinnie, Isle of Jura, and Aberfeldy are also good suggestions. For those customers with the cash, Glenfiddich has an expression aged in rum casks, and then there's Springbank.