Kilt for St. Pattis?

[MJB]

St Patiss? Who on Earth is St Patiss?

Sorry I didn't explain the meaning of the holiday, it is not a person by any mean. St patiss as you spell it, is a day we have here in Canada that celebrates the invention of the hamburger patty, do you not have a day like this where you are from?

I once again apologize for the confusion this has brought you

[seumasFinn]

I think as Tobus said, you should be aware of certain historical aspects. Linked below is just one result of a quick google, admittedly extreme.

There was a good deal of ugliness all around. I lived with Irish people in Boston in the mid 80s, Belfast, Cork and Kerry. Aside from the fact that they were Irish, not Scottish, I would be concerned not to open old wounds. They were good people, and but for one from Kerry, they just wanted the killing to stop.

I realize contemporary American culture views things differently, and you may be fine.

http://www.irishfreedomcommittee.net...atch_side2.pdf

[Zardoz]

While I have strong opinions about the history of the BW, I realize the tartan is pretty ubiquitous in the kilt business. So upon seeing it on St.Patrick's day, while I might give the wearer a hard look, I realize it's pretty likely he has no idea about the context. But I know a few Irish ex-pats and other folks who might be less restrained in their reaction.

[David Thorpe]

...St patiss as you spell it, is a day we have here in Canada that celebrates the invention of the hamburger patty...

Here in the US there is a definite Scottish connection there, with Ranald MacDonald and all.

[flairball]

As The BW is a military tartan I see no issue with wearing it on Evacuation Day. Though, those who wear BW with more purpose probably wouldn't celebrate Evacuation Day. BTW, Evacution day is March 17th, so if any of the "Irish" question your choice of tartan, just tell them it in celebration of Evacuation Day.

[macwilkin]

As The BW is a military tartan I see no issue with wearing it on Evacuation Day. Though, those who wear BW with more purpose probably wouldn't celebrate Evacuation Day. BTW, Evacution day is March 17th, so if any of the "Irish" question your choice of tartan, just tell them it in celebration of Evacuation Day.

Interestingly, the regimental history of the old Royal Highland Regiment/42nd of Foot, now the 3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Scotland, notes that the regiment took no battle honours for the American Revolution, as it was "righty decreed that battle honours should not be given for a war between kith & kin."

[CMcG]

Sooo... I rarely wear a kilt, but I got a bright idea of wearing my kilt for st pattis day, it would be black watch, which is obviously not an Irish tartan.

Does anyone have ANY advice on if this is a good idea or not? would it maybe offend some people for some reason?

If it IS a good idea, what do you suggest I wear with it?

I've worn a kilt on St. Pat's in Toronto on several occasions and never had any problems. While I've also been wearing either an Irish tartan or a solid-ish colour (SWK shadow tartan) kilt, not Black Watch, most people around here probably don't know the difference. They'll just see that Black Watch has green and be satisfied.

A few people have detailed the possibility for causing offence and it wouldn't be a bad idea to hedge your bets with a couple things. Don't wear the kilt as part of some sort of "plastic Paddy" outfit. It would be ideal if you could get an Irish tartan or solid (green, saffron, or blue) kilt.

Here's what I've worn in years gone by and where I've worn it.

To class at university and then to the grad student pub on campus:


To the St. Pat's Parade:


To a Mahone's concert at Tattoo Rock Parlour:

[MJB]

I've worn a kilt on St. Pat's in Toronto on several occasions and never had any problems. While I've also been wearing either an Irish tartan or a solid-ish colour (SWK shadow tartan) kilt, not Black Watch, most people around here probably don't know the difference. They'll just see that Black Watch has green and be satisfied.

Yeah, I'll be in Brampton, I highly doubt anyone will have a clue around here. I would grab a more solid, but being it 2 days away, I don't have much time for that, I'm sure the BW will be just fine, I'll pick up some green hose and what not. You worked it out quick nicely

I think as Tobus said, you should be aware of certain historical aspects. Linked below is just one result of a quick google, admittedly extreme.

There was a good deal of ugliness all around. I lived with Irish people in Boston in the mid 80s, Belfast, Cork and Kerry. Aside from the fact that they were Irish, not Scottish, I would be concerned not to open old wounds. They were good people, and but for one from Kerry, they just wanted the killing to stop.

I realize contemporary American culture views things differently, and you may be fine.

http://www.irishfreedomcommittee.net...atch_side2.pdf

Thanks for everyone that pointed this out, that's pretty much what I was looking for. And thank you for the link, I will have a look and in the rare case I do come across anyone that has any knowledge of it, I will at least be able to explain myself and not just look like a deer in head lights.

I think the OP was in Canada, though? Not sure what St. Patrick's Day is like up there, but as long as he doesn't wear a kilt and a leprechaun hat at the same time he should be alright, sartorially speaking.

One word of caution. The Black Watch was a British regiment in its own right, and after cutbacks and reorganisation is now a division within the Royal Scottish Regiment, although they now wear the tartan of the latter, which looks quite different (bright shades of blue and yellow, mainly). It is just possible that some actual Irish people could recognise the British military origin of the Black Watch sett and take violent exception, although not very likely. Few people will know what sett he is wearing atall.

Yes, Canada, pretty well the same around here as is just south of the border and your right, most people I will see, with just think I'm wearing a kilt with green in it, other than my gf and her Scottish parents which don't mind either way.

Another thank you to everyone that gave idea's on what they've done, I think I figured out what I'm going to pull together, I will post the end result!

I realized that mainly I'm looking for an excuse to wear a kilt

[pugcasso]

well, I wear my kilts every day when out and about but on that day (and Saturday evening) I'll wear my 'Heritage of Ireland' tartan kilt and green shirt and hose .... I wish I had gotten that sword kilt pin with the green shamrock on it (on ebay) - that would have been perfect.

[McClef]

My brother was not given his middle name after a hamburger, beef burger, horseburger, or any other burger. :buttkick: