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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba
    Magnus, I have to wonder about the kind of places you go for a pint.
    Jimmy can probably vouch for the kinds of things that happen in some of the Philly pubs. Remember, this is a town that boos its own sports teams.

    The place that I was given money for kilt checks was Fox & Hound in King of Prussia, PA behind the giant mall there.

    The place that I had a really rotten night at this week was the Boat House on Great Valley Pkwy in Malvern, PA.

    And while all lifting attempts were evaded, the most collectively rude group of people I've run into since wearing the kilt was at the Granite Run Mall in Middletown Township, PA. Last night I was there, and never have I had so many people laughing, pointing, making rude comments, etc. My responses had to cut to the bone. A group of financially disadvantaged african american women were among the worst, and my response that stopped them cold was "if I went out in a weave that looked that bad, I wouldn't be making fun of the appearance of others".

    The very worst demographic by far, though, is ~14 year old girls. Ten years from now they will be admiring men in kilts. But at this age, they just can't take it. Large groups of them would follow and heckle.

    At one point I was walking past a group of them, and overheard one saying to another "look at that homo in the skirt". I snuck up behind, put my head almost on the shoulder of the one that said it, and looked at the friend she was talking to. Her friend froze up and tried to tell her to shut up. The girl finally turned around and saw my face an inch from hers and I just said "Oh go on don't stop on my account" and they all screamed. Five minutes later a female security guard approached me and told me "I was told I'm supposed to tell you to not harass the teenagers." She was giving me that smile. You know the one. I didn't even have to defend myself. I said "girls at that age are such a pain in the ****, aren't they? I'm glad they seem to turn out well when they grow up." The security guard blushed, coyly told me she loved the kilt, and went on her way.

    And I am so glad that those rude young girls usually turn out alright after they grow up a little.

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    hmmmm...I am amazed at the -dare I say it?- prudish tone this thread has taken on, and the testosterone-enriched language it has provoked. Why should anyone be physically attacked for what is no more than(admittedly) tasteless behavoir? Peeking under the kilt is neither attempted murder nor attempted rape. At worst it's a low form of humor. Why should men be "sent to the hospital" and women attacked by out-of-control wives? Surely the lifters have made fools of themselves by their actions, but not made of fool of the unsuspecting kilt-wearer?

    Kilt-wearing, like noblesse, oblige.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by philibeg
    Why should anyone be physically attacked for what is no more than(admittedly) tasteless behavoir?
    I would expect nothing less if I did the same thing to a woman in a skirt. This is the level of response that society has come to expect for such a transgression of privacy. It amounts to sexual assault.

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    Okay...new idea.

    We all go to New Orleans next year for Mardi Gras.

    Women show their tits for beads, we lift our kilts for beads.

    New tradition.

    New kilted rendezvous.

    Probably the only place where we might be able to get away with lifting our own kilts.



    If was out in public and lifted my kilt to show I was regimental I'd be arrested.

    If I asked a women what was under her dress I'd be arrested.

    If I lifted a woman's dress to see what was under it I'd be arrested.

    If I reached under a woman's dress I'd be arrested.

    If I approached a group of teenage girls and called them lesbos for wearing pants I'd be arrested.

    No matter that it was all done in "fun."

    So maybe when we get that question we can have some "fun" back and look at them seriously and say, "I'm sorry, but I must place you under citizen's arrest for sexual assault."

    I'm soooo confused.....

    Ron
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    philibeg, IMO, deliberately rude behavior deserves capital punishment if for no other reason than to clean up the gene pool. Now, as to kilt lifting, if a man did that to a woman here he'd be under arrest, tried and convicted for sexual assault at the very least. I'll accept kilt lifting as mere low humor when it works both ways and until then it needs to be slapped down hard. Personally, I don't accept it at all from anyone (other than my wife in private) for any reason and being under the influence of alcohol is no excuse. I don't see it as being prudish at all to defend oneself from the violation of ones privacy and person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philibeg
    hmmmm...I am amazed at the -dare I say it?- prudish tone this thread has taken on, and the testosterone-enriched language it has provoked. Why should anyone be physically attacked for what is no more than(admittedly) tasteless behavoir? Peeking under the kilt is neither attempted murder nor attempted rape. At worst it's a low form of humor. Why should men be "sent to the hospital" and women attacked by out-of-control wives? Surely the lifters have made fools of themselves by their actions, but not made of fool of the unsuspecting kilt-wearer?

    Kilt-wearing, like noblesse, oblige.....
    My personal rule was drilled into me 25 years ago when I took Karate. I only hit back.
    Besides, a witty retort that cuts to the bone will be painful much longer than a black eye. Public humiliation of the offender is my preferred response.
    I also don't get embarrassed easily. If my kilt goes up in the wind, I shrug. If the back gets quickly lifted by someone, I usually ignore it. Only I lift the front. Some have tried. Most have been steered off with a look. One pack of teen schoolgirls that approached me saying to each other that they were going to lift my kilt got my very realistic dog growl and snarl. They literally jumped off the ground and ran while I laughed.
    I don't think physical violence is the answer to people who are rude, drunk, insensitive, or trying to make a fool of me. I've a quick wit and a sporranful of put downs at the ready.
    "Your man should control you better," always gets a woman steaming mad. There is no response she can give that doesn't have a better comeback.

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    That's all true, and MY feelings are just as strong if the shoe's on the other... kilt.

    One of the wives in the band had her "kilt checked" by a young guy last St. Pat's. She wasn't real happy about it either. Right before I tuned the guy out in the alley he said (and I quote) "She's wearing a kilt, and that's what you get when you wear a kilt". Remember that he didn't ask if "the question". He was sent to the "round house" for the night and charged appropriately... along with public intoxication.

    The Philly Police have told me that they would be MORE than happy to press charges if it ever gets to a point where we're bothered by it. It all comes down to the individual's perspective on the situation. Was it done discretely? Was it done mildly (not infront of the civilized world)? Was it a subtle check on the leg? Was it done in an environment that wasn't embarassing? There are too many variables to list.

    Hey. If Heidi Klum wanted to exchange kilt checks... I'm not THAT stupid!
    Arise. Kill. Eat.

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    Men rarely get the attention that women get. I don't mind a little attention from the ladies once a while. It's all good. Who knows, they may be willing to show you a little more as well.

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    LOL! your sporran is full to overflowing!

    Well, far be it from me to impose my vision on others, we must all draw our own lines, and once drawn, we should certainly stick to them....but I just can't get quite as steamed up about this as some of my kilted brethren, who nonetheless retain the devoted admiration and deep-felt friendship of,

    their humble

    Philibeg

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    Bear, your approach is generally the best one, although on rare occasion it might require a physical response to some lowlife that decides his "honor" has been impugned and demands an escalation. The kinds of places where that's likely aren't on my list of places to go in the first place so the odds are small I'll have to make it a habit.

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