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    And of course you all know that a chequered band around a Balmoral or Glengarry signifies allegiance to the British crown. Maybe want to get the scissors out.

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    I wonder if all these ancient meanings of ribbons and checkered bands on Balmorals are widely known these days.

    I never knew that they had a history of significance until I joined this forum despite all my experience of Scotland.

    So the chances of being challenged as a single Hanoverian when I wear mine are somewhat remote. Wear it how you want to!
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    dicing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    And of course you all know that a chequered band around a Balmoral or Glengarry signifies allegiance to the British crown. Maybe want to get the scissors out.
    Phil,

    I have heard that line for years and years, and yet I have never been able to find a single "authoritative" source to confirm it -- not all of the Highland regiments of the British Army wore diced glengarries, so that kind of kills the theory anyway.

    Regards,

    Todd

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    Diced or Not

    Take a look at the eleventh paragraph down at this website for a reading on the diced look. http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml

    Over all the author has an interesting article to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Patrick View Post
    Take a look at the eleventh paragraph down at this website for a reading on the diced look. http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml

    Over all the author has an interesting article to read.
    Notice that she doesn't provide any footnotes, sources, works cited, etc.
    I am familiar with this author's work, and there are several in the Scottish-American community who question her reliability. I wouldn't rely too much on this artilce. Our own Matt Newsome is a far better scholar when it comes to Highland attire, and that is an understatement!

    But, we history teachers tend to get picky when it comes to citing sources. :mrgreen:

    T.

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    Here's another interesting article on dicing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glengarry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Patrick View Post
    Here's another interesting article on dicing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glengarry
    Don,

    I think you'll find a better site at:

    www.albanach.org

    The Wiki on glengarries does list some sources, but you'll notice this comment:

    The style of dicing on the side of the cap was a means of identifying different regiments.
    Notice no mention of the dicing determining "loyalty" to the British Crown. If that was the case, then the Black Watch, the senior Highland regiment, would have worn dicing on their bonnets and later glengarries -- the RHR wore plain bonnets.

    Regards,

    Todd

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    Just noticed this article on the web - though it might be of iterest.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balmoral_bonnet

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    Good Web Site

    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Don,

    I think you'll find a better site at:

    www.albanach.org

    The Wiki on glengarries does list some sources, but you'll notice this comment:



    Notice no mention of the dicing determining "loyalty" to the British Crown. If that was the case, then the Black Watch, the senior Highland regiment, would have worn dicing on their bonnets and later glengarries -- the RHR wore plain bonnets.

    Regards,

    Todd

    Todd,

    This is an incredible web site. I can see I'll be spending some time exploring it. Thanks for the direction,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Patrick View Post
    Todd,

    This is an incredible web site. I can see I'll be spending some time exploring it. Thanks for the direction,
    The site touted by Todd happens to be the one put together by our own Matt Newsome.

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