Scotland Flag patch

[bowser]

Are you resident in the UK? If you are I'm really surprised you don't know about all the problems there are flying the St George's cross

Yep live in London, been in the Police 20 years, it is not now and never has been any offence of flying any flag.

There are various government departments, organizations, etc that have decided that flying certain flags is not permitted within their buildings, but that is up to them. And to be fair that is due to its association with "football" thugs, Chavs and far right politics.

It does not make it illegal, or even unlawful.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Are you resident in the UK? If you are I'm really surprised you don't know about all the problems there are flying the St George's cross

St. George's cross is the national flag of England, and it is flown by English men and women all over the country. It also is flown at many, if not most, churches of the Church of England.

[EagleJCS]

Gentlemen,
Regardless of its current (mis)use, the Rampant Lion flag is the royal standard of the sovereign, and the Rampant Lion (red lion on a gold background) on a shield is the royal coat of arms for Scotland. As has been suggested before, flying the Rampant Lion flag in Scotland would be comparable to flying the U.S. presidential flag in the States.

Please see this page on the website of The Court of the Lord Lyon: http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/237.html

In short, per the website, the Lion Rampant flag is restricted to the sovereign and certain official representatives of the sovereign. There's even reference to the law covering its use.

You can also see a letter from the previous Lord Lyon, the Hon. Robin Blair, discussing this question here: http://www.scotarmigers.net/gallery....e/letter2b.jpg

Not mentioned in either website is that prosecution of offenders is generally not done simply because it's too much trouble, and most uses are apparently for patriotic reasons. It's only when someone is using the symbol to impersonate one of the aforesaid officers that Lord Lyon may step in. (Lord Lyon can only levy a 100-pound fine and confiscate the item in question, same as for someone usurping someone else's coat of arms). Also, Lord Lyon's jurisdiction is only in Scotland, so you can probably cross the border into England and do what you wish.

[macwilkin]

Gentlemen,
Regardless of its current (mis)use, the Rampant Lion flag is the royal standard of the sovereign, and the Rampant Lion (red lion on a gold background) on a shield is the royal coat of arms for Scotland. As has been suggested before, flying the Rampant Lion flag in Scotland would be comparable to flying the U.S. presidential flag in the States.

Please see this page on the website of The Court of the Lord Lyon: http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/237.html

In short, per the website, the Lion Rampant flag is restricted to the sovereign and certain official representatives of the sovereign. There's even reference to the law covering its use.

You can also see a letter from the previous Lord Lyon, the Hon. Robin Blair, discussing this question here: http://www.scotarmigers.net/gallery....e/letter2b.jpg

Not mentioned in either website is that prosecution of offenders is generally not done simply because it's too much trouble, and most uses are apparently for patriotic reasons. It's only when someone is using the symbol to impersonate one of the aforesaid officers that Lord Lyon may step in. (Lord Lyon can only levy a 100-pound fine and confiscate the item in question, same as for someone usurping someone else's coat of arms). Also, Lord Lyon's jurisdiction is only in Scotland, so you can probably cross the border into England and do what you wish.

Well said, sir!

Todd

[JS Sanders]

I've traveled extensively in Scotland and can state that the Rampant Lion Flag is widely displayed.

It is largely flown at kitschy tourist destinations & hotels, and often adjacent to the Saltire. As previously stated, prosecution is (probably) not done simply because it's not worth the effort. And I might hypothesize, the sheer number of Rampant Lion flags that are displayed.

A number of Scots have told me of their disapproval of the practice.

I ain't got a chicken in this fight, so whatever the Court of the Lord Lyon chooses to do is just fine with me.

Slan,
steve

[Nick the DSM]

what about patches, guys?!

[sharpdressedscot]

Actually I think this is a pretty darn good conversation here.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

what about patches, guys?!

Patches? I doan gots a show hew no stinkin' patches!

[Nervous Jock]

Yep live in London, been in the Police 20 years, it is not now and never has been any offence of flying any flag.

There are various government departments, organizations, etc that have decided that flying certain flags is not permitted within their buildings, but that is up to them. And to be fair that is due to its association with "football" thugs, Chavs and far right politics.

It does not make it illegal, or even unlawful.

so what about the taxi drivers who couldn't fly the flags of their cabs??

[Nick the DSM]

Patches? I doan gots a show hew no stinkin' patches!

whatever, man!