Even in Scotland

**Andy** · 29th April 09, 09:07 PM

I can't say I would ever judge a person's sexuality by the clothes on their backs (unless it's printed right there on the t-shirt). I work with a lot of gays, lesbians and barsexuals (yes, barsexuals) and I've seen alot of shabbily dressed gay men and women.

I've worn my kilt to the club on several occasions and was never asked if I was gay - which is kinda funny because I've been flirted with by other men more for wearing nothing but jeans, a nice button down and a sports coat (supervisor "uniform"). Maybe it's because I don't look like some of the other more-business looking people in my position within the company or perhaps it's because I simply don't chase or flirt with women (mostly because my wife would frown upon that some). Or it could be the fact that our establishment isn't a gay nightclub.

And while I've been asked about my sexuality by some of my co-workers, subordinates and peers, I've NEVER been asked by my boss. In fact, I can't even imagine him asking me such a question. But I do know that if I was, he (or anyone else in my company) wouldn't have a problem with it.

Speaking of my boss and kilts, my softball team played his team this weekend in our kilts (pics coming soon) and he thought it was the best stunt ever. He absolutely loved it. So I think it's safe to say my boss (who also happens to be the president of our clubs) doesn't have any issue with a man in a kilt.

**SteveB** · 29th April 09, 09:28 PM

Jock Scot,

Unfortunately just about every picture that I have of my younger rellies on your side of the pond in their klited kit, has gone to some form of button down shirt. Everything else is what you and I know as the true traditional kit. Now if I can convince the younger rellies to dress better..... Fortunately the older generations still do it right for the big occasions.

The only times that I have seen less than full kit is for sporting matches. Many of them were in the "Tartan Army" that followed the match in Amsterdam. They were in kilt, but wore team jerseys as the shirt component.

Slainte

**Bugbear** · 29th April 09, 11:36 PM

I'm so ashamed of myself; I've worn button down shirts with a kilt.

**Jock Scot** · 30th April 09, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

I'm so ashamed of myself; I've worn button down shirts with a kilt.

I can see that you need to sharpen up there ,Ted!

**Bugbear** · 30th April 09, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

I can see that you need to sharpen up there ,Ted!

So... Since I need to get all wound up about the type of shirt that is proper with a kilt, which shirt is the traditional shirt?

**Jock Scot** · 30th April 09, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

So... Since I need to get all wound up about the type of shirt that is proper with a kilt, which shirt is the traditional shirt?

Any shirt that you like,Ted, is the proper shirt. Which shirt is the traditional shirt?Goodness only knows, I don't!

**Bugbear** · 30th April 09, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Any shirt that you like,Ted, is the proper shirt. Which shirt is the traditional shirt?Goodness only knows, I don't!

Actually, MacMillan of Rathdown suggested light blue, button down, oxford cloth shirts, also, white. So I'm going to assume that wearing a button down shirt does not make one a "kilt hippie."

I have both spread and button down collar shirts hanging in my closet... right next to the Hawaiian shirts.

**Jock Scot** · 30th April 09, 04:49 AM

Now then Ted,you know that you should not mention those H******* shirt things here! It will get poor old James MacMillan all excited!

**Chas** · 30th April 09, 04:49 AM

I think this says more about the secretary than it does about Jordan and Gary. Why would somebody think that a co-worker could be gay because he was sat with someone else who was wearing 'non-standard' attire? Does this mean that a man walking down a street, who donates some spare change to a busker suddenly becomes a musician? The faulty logic is the same. Guilt by association.

Homosexuality is no longer illegal in the UK, but it is illegal to discriminate on those grounds. If it were me I would ask her a very probing question of a very intimate nature. When she objects (as she will), I would come back with "But you think it is alright to ask me about my sexuality". No official action is taken, but she is made aware that her behaviour and actions are unacceptable.

Like most things in life (Health and Safety; Good working practises; relationships) People Don't Think. If people stopped and thought first they wouldn't step in front of the moving car; burn themselves to death; take the wrong pills or ask the unnecessary hurtful questions. Had she thought first, she would have seen that it was none of her business on any level and anyway her employer did not pay her to stand around gossipping all day.

Regards

Chas