Anderson 1936 catalogue

[SlackerDrummer]

Is page 26 missing or is it just not showing up for me?

[OC Richard]

Is page 26 missing or is it just not showing up for me?

Hey good eye there! You know what, I forget to scan page 26! Let me do that now, and I'll post it where it ought to be in the OP. Thanks! Richard

Done! Richard

[hylander]

Love the sporran section, thanks! I also liked the (fly) Plaid page, seems the practice is older than I was led to believe, although again, "recent" being a relative term.

[OC Richard]

I also liked the (fly) Plaid page, seems the practice is older than I was led to believe

For the record, none of my vintage catalogues list or illustrate "fly" plaids.

What they do list and illustrate are "belted" plaids, a rather heavy, complex, and expensive garment, one that is very labour-intensive to make (I know because I've made a few of them!)

A belted plaid has a cloth belt (hence the name) which is buckled around the waist. Issuing from the belt is a large rectangle of tartan, pleated where it joins the belt. This rectangle of tartan is fringed with rolled fringe on three sides. At the middle of the side opposite the belt is sewn a triangle of tartan, fringed on two sides. This bit goes through the epaulette of the jacket.

Here is a belted plaid



You hear them called "drummers' plaids" often nowadays, though they are not and have never been the exclusive provenance of drummers, but were common with civilian Evening Dress and a standard item of Army Officers' uniforms.

[David Thorpe]

...What they do list and illustrate are "belted" plaids, a rather heavy, complex, and expensive garment, one that is very labour-intensive to make (I know because I've made a few of them!)...

Richard, I would very much like to learn more about the construction details of this type of plaid, as well as how it is properly worn. The late Scotty Thompson mentioned them in his book, but did not include nearly enough information for actually making one.

I assume that the white stitching in the photo is basting?

[hylander]

For the record, none of my vintage catalogues list or illustrate "fly" plaids.

What they do list and illustrate are "belted" plaids, a rather heavy, complex, and expensive garment, one that is very labour-intensive to make (I know because I've made a few of them!)]

Thanks for the clarification. Looking at the catalogue illustration and then looking at your belted plaid photo I would have never guessed them to be one in the same, nice work by the way. Was the belted plaid intended to give one the "look" of the greatkilt?

[longhuntr74]

Hey good eye there! You know what, I forget to scan page 26! Let me do that now, and I'll post it where it ought to be in the OP. Thanks! Richard

Done! Richard

I guess I had noticed the absence of daywear sporrans in the catalogue...but it didn't register that a page was missing. WOW...what a great selection. I particularly LOVE the two brass cantled sporrans...and I think that they have helped me to decide what I intend to do with the MOD cantle that is currently enroute to my house. The other thing I found interesting is the two fur and leather combinations that are typically described today as "Semi-dress" sporrans. This style has been typically referred to as "neither fish nor foul" around here and I got the general sense that this was a 1980s or new invention. Apparently not.

[artificer]

I guess I had noticed the absence of daywear sporrans in the catalogue...but it didn't register that a page was missing. WOW...what a great selection. I particularly LOVE the two brass cantled sporrans...and I think that they have helped me to decide what I intend to do with the MOD cantle that is currently enroute to my house. The other thing I found interesting is the two fur and leather combinations that are typically described today as "Semi-dress" sporrans. This style has been typically referred to as "neither fish nor foul" around here and I got the general sense that this was a 1980s or new invention. Apparently not.

Jeff,
if you're referring to #11 and #13 in this pic, they're not quite the same as a modern day "semi-dress"


These have an "envelope" top and are structured and detailed somewhat differently than today's "Take a regular leather sporran and glue fur on the front and stud the top".




From the thread:http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...an-ebay-66484/

I suppose you could argue that they're basically the same, but to me there's a world of difference between these and the modern type.

ith:

[ScotFree]

Seriously, what does HRH have to actually carry?

[longhuntr74]

Seriously, what does HRH have to actually carry?

I'd reckon he carries similar items to most any other guy...but maybe that's naive thinking.