'Black tie' questions

[JSFMACLJR]

And 2-and-a-quarter inches of stiff starched, porcelain-y collar looks a great deal better than the rather flabby attached sort.

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[Zardoz]

Quick question-
Which is more formal Argyll or Diced hose?
I have heard both answers from many different people. Is there a definite answer for which is more formal?

Thanks!

-yodofizzy

For what it's worth, 2 of the books I have on Highland dress mention diced and argyll (or tartan) hose as basically the same level of formality.

[JSFMACLJR]

Quick question-
Which is more formal Argyll or Diced hose?
I have heard both answers from many different people. Is there a definite answer for which is more formal?

Thanks!

-yodofizzy

One is no more formal than the other.

[Sir Didymous]

I love dredging up old threads. But if there is already a thread for the type of question, why start a new one? The question I have is as follows:
I have been looking for a pair of dark grey/ charcoal kilt hose for my formal attire. I have found some different places that sell them but one has embroidered rampant lions on them. As one who loves heraldry I automatically wanted to buy them, but then I thought about it and I'm not sure if they would be considered formal with the embroidery on the cuff. Any thoughts?

[Sir Didymous]

Thanks for any info

[Zardoz]

Just me, I don't think the embroidered lions work with formal, I usually wear some dark charcoal Piper hose with my formalwear.

[piperdbh]

Our neighbor from Texas speaketh wisdom. Skip the embroidered hose, get some solid-colored ones, and the world will be a happy place.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I'll echo those sentiments. Get the lion rampant ones for day wear if you like them, but for evening wear I'd opt for either a solid pair of charcoal, or diced. I have a nice pair of diced hose I had made with grey and black dicing and they look great with just about any tartan.

[Alan H]

I have a pair of natural wool-colored....meaning "cream" hand-knit hose that I carefully store away and get out only for very nice occasions. They were hand-made for me by a lovely lass who used to post rather frequently on this forum. She's a fantastic knitter and a beautiful and articulate and educated lady. They're made from virgin wool, and are warm and generally wonderful. Also, unlike nearly every other pair of hose I've ever owned (until I got this Oh-my-God COTTON pair recently) they actually fit my leg and don't cut into my calves like a garrotte.

I wear her HORRID INAPPROPRIATE "cream hose" with pride and gratitude, remembering the lovely woman who knit them for me, and should someone have the absolute gall to present me with a card that said "any color but white" I'd be quite pleased to roll said card up and shove it where it belongs.

As for ignoring the ignorant masses, and "doing it right" while the rest of us wallow in ignorant boorishness, as indicated by the horrible and repulsive wearing of white...or even black SOCKS, I'll happily inform anyone who cares to know, that I would a hundred times over rather have a beer with a lad who's wearing white socks, but who's a sincere fellow, not too worried about how much better he is than everyone else, than choke down a pint with a person who thinks that the color of flippin' SOCKS that he has chosen makes him "more correct" and "better" than anyone else.

I trust that I've been clear, here.

[Lyle1]

I have a pair of natural wool-colored....meaning "cream" hand-knit hose that I carefully store away and get out only for very nice occasions. They were hand-made for me by a lovely lass who used to post rather frequently on this forum. She's a fantastic knitter and a beautiful and articulate and educated lady. They're made from virgin wool, and are warm and generally wonderful. Also, unlike nearly every other pair of hose I've ever owned (until I got this Oh-my-God COTTON pair recently) they actually fit my leg and don't cut into my calves like a garrotte.

I wear her HORRID INAPPROPRIATE "cream hose" with pride and gratitude, remembering the lovely woman who knit them for me, and should someone have the absolute gall to present me with a card that said "any color but white" I'd be quite pleased to roll said card up and shove it where it belongs.

As for ignoring the ignorant masses, and "doing it right" while the rest of us wallow in ignorant boorishness, as indicated by the horrible and repulsive wearing of white...or even black SOCKS, I'll happily inform anyone who cares to know, that I would a hundred times over rather have a beer with a lad who's wearing white socks, but who's a sincere fellow, not too worried about how much better he is than everyone else, than swallow down a pint with a person who thinks that the color of flippin' SOCKS that he has chosen makes him "more correct" and "better" than anyone else.

I trust that I've been clear, here.

I can only add that I think the lad in wearing white socks would be a more interesting drinking partner than a man who was worried about what other people might think about him because of the color of his socks.