Problems with Cilt coming apart

**Kylahullu** · 19th November 14, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Playing Devils advocate here, just what do we expect for £300?

Originally Posted by OC Richard

For $500 here in the USA, one can get a kilt with nicely handstitched pleats, reverse pleat, full canvas lining, stabiliser, and all the other attributes of a traditional kilt.

Originally Posted by Mel1721

Unfortunately when ordering from Spain, not only is the postage extortionate, but so are the taxes levied by the Spanish government.

Got curious and did some browsing in some web sites of sellers in EU:

Buyakilt 5 yd custom made Welsh National Ancient 13oz = £279.50
Scotweb casual Welsh National (Modern Colours) 13oz = £215.44
Paul Henry: Traditionally styled 5 yard kilts in 16 oz tartan from £295

I do not have any experiences of those listed but they should have VAT included in EU, no customs to be added.

**Mel1721L** · 19th November 14, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Kylahullu

Got curious and did some browsing in some web sites of sellers in EU:

Buyakilt 5 yd custom made Welsh National Ancient 13oz = £279.50
Scotweb casual Welsh National (Modern Colours) 13oz = £215.44
Paul Henry: Traditionally styled 5 yard kilts in 16 oz tartan from £295

I do not have any experiences of those listed but they should have VAT included in EU, no customs to be added.

The prices you quote may not include VAT, but I can only get Powell of Wales tartan from Wales Tartan Centres. They offer them at Celtic Croft in the US, but I imagine they buy them in already made from Swansea. I must check though. Thanks for your research though. I have come to the conclusion that a cheap PV kilt is a better option.

**Kylahullu** · 19th November 14, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mel1721L

The prices you quote may not include VAT, but I can only get Powell of Wales tartan from Wales Tartan Centres. They offer them at Celtic Croft in the US, but I imagine they buy them in already made from Swansea. I must check though. Thanks for your research though. I have come to the conclusion that a cheap PV kilt is a better option.

Well, those prises include VAT.
You can get the kilt also in Powell of Wales tartan from Scotweb. The price looks to be £307.72 (VAT inclusive). There is a mentioning of 8 metres minimum and if I interpret it right you have to pay for that extra 3.4 metres (£140.25 + VAT) if you buy only one kilt. So a bit more than £300...

This Powell of Wales tartan can be found on Scotwebs pages too: http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan?filt...owell+of+Wales so I think it is not needed to buy it outside EU. Again more than £300 for only the tartan (min 8 metres £396 inclusive VAT).

For me this has been just curiosity if it really is that one has to buy everything from over the Atlantic. Most of which have originally been made in EU (or UK).

**Mel1721L** · 19th November 14, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Kylahullu

Well, those prises include VAT.
You can get the kilt also in Powell of Wales tartan from Scotweb. The price looks to be £307.72 (VAT inclusive). There is a mentioning of 8 metres minimum and if I interpret it right you have to pay for that extra 3.4 metres (£140.25 + VAT) if you buy only one kilt. So a bit more than £300...

This Powell of Wales tartan can be found on Scotwebs pages too: http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan?filt...owell+of+Wales so I think it is not needed to buy it outside EU. Again more than £300 for only the tartan (min 8 metres £396 inclusive VAT).

For me this has been just curiosity if it really is that one has to buy everything from over the Atlantic. Most of which have originally been made in EU (or UK).

No I contacted Scotweb a few days ago and they told me they couldn't get the tartan I wanted. I think Wales Tartan Centres has an exclusive deal with them, an independent kiltmaker told me the same. I don't know why the tartans are on their website. The cloth sells at £48 a meter excluding VAT from Wales Tartan Centres, so the Scotweb prices wouldn't reflect that.

**Kylahullu** · 19th November 14, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mel1721L

No I contacted Scotweb a few days ago and they told me they couldn't get the tartan I wanted. I think Wales Tartan Centres has an exclusive deal with them, an independent kiltmaker told me the same. I don't know why the tartans are on their website. The cloth sells at £48 a meter excluding VAT from Wales Tartan Centres, so the Scotweb prices wouldn't reflect that.

Interesting. Having read of Scotwebs problems(?) in answering to their customers in an other thread here. Maybe @Nick_Fiddes might want to tell why they do not sell you something that is clearly for sale on their web page.

**Mel1721L** · 19th November 14, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Kylahullu

Interesting. Having read of Scotwebs problems(?) in answering to their customers in an other thread here. Maybe @Nick_Fiddes might want to tell why they do not sell you something that is clearly for sale on their web page.

I have contacted them again this evening and will post the result.

**kiltedtom** · 21st November 14, 07:46 PM

Mel,

I am sorry to hear of your problems with your kilt. I do hope that the Wales Tartan Center will do what is right for you. But I am now convinced that I will not do any business with them in the future. I really spent a lot of time looking at their site when trying to decide where to buy my first kilt. Thank you very much for your letting the rest of us here know how they treated you. I could not expect them to treat anyone else any differently.

Good luck with them and in the future.

Tom

**Mike S** · 21st November 14, 09:23 PM

If I decide to have a kilt that celebrates my Welsh side of the family tree, I'll just order the Edwards tartan and make one up myself (or better yet have one of the splendid kilt maker sponsors here do so) rather than order from them.

I believe that the best way to vote is with one's feet, and they lost my potential business through their lousy handling of this situation.

**Mel1721L** · 22nd November 14, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by kiltedtom

Mel,

I am sorry to hear of your problems with your kilt. I do hope that the Wales Tartan Center will do what is right for you. But I am now convinced that I will not do any business with them in the future. I really spent a lot of time looking at their site when trying to decide where to buy my first kilt. Thank you very much for your letting the rest of us here know how they treated you. I could not expect them to treat anyone else any differently.

Good luck with them and in the future.

Tom

Hi Tom,

They gave me a refund, minus my postage costs. What I really wanted was a properly constructed kilt. I'm looking around for others that may be able to make one. None of the companies I've contacted have responded to my email.

**Mel1721L** · 22nd November 14, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mike S

If I decide to have a kilt that celebrates my Welsh side of the family tree, I'll just order the Edwards tartan and make one up myself (or better yet have one of the splendid kilt maker sponsors here do so) rather than order from them.

I believe that the best way to vote is with one's feet, and they lost my potential business through their lousy handling of this situation.

I would do exactly the same. Other companies offering these kilts may well buy them in ready made from Wales Tartan Centres instead of making them themselves but I have not had answers to my enquiries in this regard.