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    Dressing as a Scotsman for Halloween is in poor taste in my opinion.

    However, what about...

    ...a Scottish Pirate



    ...Macbeth





    ...a Scottish Santa




    ...or a Scottish Explorer




    You can incorporate the kilt in a variety of ways that has it be part of a costume, but you should never make the kilt a costume.

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    Returning this post to the open forum from the Cooling Off Corner. Several posts have been removed under the terms of Rule 2 as they were escalating hostile discussion.

    Thank you to the members and general membership for understanding the rules.

    To quote from radio stations, "We now return you to your regular programming."
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    One more photo and a final thought

    How could I forget....


    .... Steampunk!




    Giving this thread some thought I was reminded of a costume I wore a few years back for Halloween





    Now wearing a kimono and the paired swords (both toys, one plastic the other wood) and calling myself a samurai or Japanese man would be wrong. It wouldn't be respectful.

    However I was being a very specific character from the mini-series and novel Shōgun* and I think that made a big difference in terms of respect for the garment and the culture.

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    * Absolutely no one remembers the name "John Blackthorne" of "Anjin-san", however virtually every adult I met went "OH! You're Richard Chamberlain!!!" this included the Asian lady at the shop where I bought the kimono.

    Maybe I should have gone as Dr. Kildare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    .....* Absolutely no one remembers the name "John Blackthorne" of "Anjin-san", however virtually every adult I met went "OH! You're Richard Chamberlain!!!" this included the Asian lady at the shop where I bought the kimono.....
    I must be the only one that does. Also, remember the Erasmus.
    "I can draw a mouse with a pencil, but I can't draw a pencil with a mouse"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Dressing as a Scotsman for Halloween is in poor taste in my opinion.

    However, what about...

    ...a Scottish Pirate



    ...Macbeth





    ...a Scottish Santa




    ...or a Scottish Explorer




    You can incorporate the kilt in a variety of ways that has it be part of a costume, but you should never make the kilt a costume.

    Cheers

    Jamie
    You are a very bad man ( well naughty really ). I like the fact that you can still have fun with the kilt, whilst you have demonstrated wearing it very well in traditionally/historically/casually formats on numerous occasions in the past.

    I might not like all of the looks, but who cares that's just my own hang ups and some of the looks have made me reappraise and alter what I wear because they do look good and isn't that what this forum should be about.

    I don't get upset about people using the kilt as part of a costume as long as people recognise that what they are wearing is a costume and not anything historical, have fun and enjoy yourself. As to wearing it with things not regarded as traditional, please keep doing it I have grown to appreciate the mix of modern/traditional mixes some have displayed.

    P.S whilst I think some people can end up looking like muppets, self included, my 22 in the British army has left me with a warped sense of humour and instead of getting upset I just laugh to myself ( get strange looks from the wife if it is out loud) and move on.
    Last edited by Nomad; 1st September 18 at 12:59 AM. Reason: Some typos fixed

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    Reading this thread brought to mind an incident when I was in a Target store in Florida just before Halloween. There, on the shelves, were dress-up costumes for DOGS! Yes DOGS. I must admit a fellow shopper was similarly bemused so my reaction was shared by this local also. I do hope that no-one considers dressing in a kilt for Halloween as a fancy dress outing and see an earlier post by a Scottish gentleman who shared that sentiment. Being new to this it all seems so confusing. One minute I read how circumspect I must be down to such simple things as the socks to wear and the next it seems anything goes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivor View Post
    Reading this thread brought to mind an incident when I was in a Target store in Florida just before Halloween. There, on the shelves, were dress-up costumes for DOGS! Yes DOGS. I must admit a fellow shopper was similarly bemused so my reaction was shared by this local also. I do hope that no-one considers dressing in a kilt for Halloween as a fancy dress outing and see an earlier post by a Scottish gentleman who shared that sentiment. Being new to this it all seems so confusing. One minute I read how circumspect I must be down to such simple things as the socks to wear and the next it seems anything goes!
    I can understand your confusion and I would love to say there is a simple answer but there isn't. I spent around 3 months going through most of the forums getting a feel for things.
    I may have been born and spent my first 19 years in Scotland, but I am southern scots and kilts were only worn at official functions and that was a rarity in my childhood/adolescence.
    Things have changed back home and kilts are commonly worn at official functions, but not otherwise, but that doesn't mean they are worn well, which is why I spent so much time on here "doing research".
    I would thoroughly recommend going back through some of the older discussions on here, whilst I have flexible views on wearing a kilt I do think some things just look better if rules/guidelines are followed, then do some experimentation to see if it works.

    Good luck

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    * Absolutely no one remembers the name "John Blackthorne" of "Anjin-san", however virtually every adult I met went "OH! You're Richard Chamberlain!!!" this included the Asian lady at the shop where I bought the kimono.

    I remember the Anjin-san well! I myself went as Yoshi Toranaga one year in homemade armor and horned helmet. I wasn't appropriating anyone's culture, just being a huge Toshiro Mifune fan .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I do think some things just look better if rules/guidelines are followed, then do some experimentation to see if it works.

    Good luck

    Sound advice!
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things than to take rank with those poor wretched souls who know neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
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    Thanks for your advice, Nomad, and I am hoping to pick up as much good advice as possible here. The more I read the more I am confused, however, and a bit more time may be needed before I take the plunge. My wife is, like yourself, from a lowland Scottish background and has some knowledge from relatives so can be some help and would love me tonwear the kilt. Again it would probably be for special occasions as I really don’t see me as a Welshman wearing a kilt day to day but Rugby matches - well that’s something else. I will keep reading on here and asking questions when I need some advice.

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