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8th March 07, 11:36 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Monkey@Arms
Well I think the answer is quite obvious. If you deny that a garment is a kilt, which we all agree is a garment designed for, and traditionally worn by, men, then what is the alternative? In Western society I think we all know the answer.
Your statement that you'll defend some ones right to wear any garment they please rings hollow, if at the same time you effectively label said person a cross-dresser because their "kilt" doesn't meet your subjective criteria for what is a kilt.
Actually I think you are reading into what I was saying. I certainly agree on your definition of a kilt, I personally however do not believe that all unbifurcated garments designed for men and worn by men are kilts. That however is not the same as calling someone a cross-dresser, whom I would define as a man dressing up as a woman. While I don't think some of the new garments being called kilts are, I don't think that means the wearer is a cross-dresser. So again it may not be my idea of a kilt, but I will defend their right to wear it. I also defend the right of someone to be a cross-dresser, I think it's odd, but they have the right.
 Originally Posted by Big Mikey
For better or worse, my big mouth is in gear and ready to sound off on this topic. It would seem that all this cafuffle began with the Tripp kilt. The original thread was posted by a member who wanted to share with us his son's first purchase. This young lad has started down the road to kilt wearing and being young, he chose something that was appropriate for his age. As is true in many cases, his tastes and choices will undoubtly become more refined as he grows. All I can say is lighten up, support the boy and move on.
Which is why I started the thread rather than post in that thread. I agree we should support him, and this thread wasn't meant to do otherwise. It was however reading that thread that got the debate started in my head and therefore gave me the idea to start this thread.
Last edited by Chef; 8th March 07 at 11:43 AM.
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8th March 07, 12:14 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Chef
Actually I think you are reading into what I was saying. I certainly agree on your definition of a kilt, I personally however do not believe that all unbifurcated garments designed for men and worn by men are kilts. That however is not the same as calling someone a cross-dresser, whom I would define as a man dressing up as a woman. While I don't think some of the new garments being called kilts are, I don't think that means the wearer is a cross-dresser. So again it may not be my idea of a kilt, but I will defend their right to wear it. I also defend the right of someone to be a cross-dresser, I think it's odd, but they have the right.
Fair enough. Forums are an inexact means of communication. I still think my answer explains why men who personally consider the garment they are wearing to be a kilt, albeit perhaps a modern variant, are adamant that it not be categorized as something else. A kilt is a garment recognized in Western society as a man's garment. Most other unbifurcated garments are not.
Best regards,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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8th March 07, 12:13 AM
#3
I don't care.
I just wear mine when I feel like it.
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8th March 07, 01:43 AM
#4
Does the kilt have a future---ABSOLUTELY
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8th March 07, 01:53 AM
#5
ai hope kilts arr NEVER fashionable arr
available in discoont 'trooser' shops....
kilts in Wallymart, Gap, arr some other sweatyshop place?
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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8th March 07, 05:21 AM
#6
In my opinion, we will never see kilts in Wally World, unless they are on the rack with women's skirts. I think they will show up, sometime in the next 10 years or so, in shops which specialize in men's suits. This will probably be as a few "try on" models for special order items.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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8th March 07, 12:15 PM
#7
Actually I'm waiting for straightjackets to become
fashionable so people stop asking why I'm in one
and start saying how good I look. They go
really well with a kilt.
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9th March 07, 07:57 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Robinhood
Actually I'm waiting for straightjackets to become
fashionable so people stop asking why I'm in one
and start saying how good I look. They go
really well with a kilt.
HAHAHAHA
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9th March 07, 08:31 AM
#9
I've got to chime in on this thread.
As to kilts becoming popular; I can see some of the less traditional, more modern type kilts becoming more common, but popular, I don't think so. My reasoning; price, and style. Most of the younger generations who tend to push clothing trends aren't afraid to spend money on clothing, but probably won't want to spend the kind of money it costs to buy a tank. Most of these people would also perfer to not look retro, but would rather move forward, and try to incorporate the look into where todays fashion is going. Of course I am not very fashionable myself, so this is just speculation.
I think the most important thing is to look, and act appropriate in whatever kilt variant you choose to wear. How we put our outfits together is important, as it sends a message to whoever sees us wearing our kilts. The kilt outfit you wear changing your oil may not be the best choice of kilt outfit to wear to a wedding. Nor would the kilt outfit you wear at a wedding be the most appropriate choice for spending a day at the mall with your wife. Some kilts were designed for casual use, while others were designed to be worn formaly. Others still fall comfortably (and thankfully) in the middle. Put together the right combination, and adopt the correct behavior for the situation, and kilt wearing will be advanced.
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9th March 07, 07:28 AM
#10
OK, now that my comment has been quoted several times, I think i should clarify: My sarcasm was somewhat directed at the future of this website.
First, I personally think that the whole Tripp kilt thingy is overblown. As far as I am concerned, it looks close enough to a kilt to qualify and we should encourage people to wear kilts and support them when they do.
Now, to the meat of my issue. If this a kilted website, it is my opinion that there should be some sort of standard as to what constitutes a kilt-like garment. Otherwise, we will indeed become just another MUG site like others we have all seen on the web. I have seen the moderators on this site comment about certain topics being not kilt related and more suited for the off topic section and so on. I cant remember a specific example...sorry. Anyway, I dont know if there are standards that can be applied, but nor do i want to see lots of discussions on sarongs or skirts. I know there's a line in here somewhere, but i cant articulate it well right now.
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