But is it still a kilt?

**tundramanq** · 26th July 12, 08:42 AM

GALS - how does the full circle skirt compare to the "automatic pressure relief" that the wrap aprons may provide in the wind?

**Cherub** · 26th July 12, 01:01 PM

I have an older standard. I like as is and still wear it regularly. I have not been a fan of the company since they went to mass-produced. It should be noted that "New Standard" is only the working name, They are planing to rename it but to get into that naming contest you must purchase the ugly thing. I will not be buying any other UK's. There are others makers who have quality products at a better price.

**tundramanq** · 26th July 12, 01:16 PM

Frustrating to pay that price for that workmanship. Too bad they patented the good parts to death. They won't let anyone else use them ( at a reasonable price ) - I wonder why?

**Duke of Delrio** · 27th July 12, 03:23 AM

But is it still a kilt? . . .I don't think it ever was. I could take a pair of pants, cut them off just above the knees, cut the inseams and sew them together with a couple of gussets and pleatey things tossed in . . . and have an unbifurcated garment that was never a kilt. Stylish, perhaps, given the eye of the beholder, but it wasn't a kilt to begin with and would not become a kilt if it were cut from whole cloth.

**Naesk** · 27th July 12, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Cygnus

We really need a "like" button for things like this.

I agree! That was brilliant.

**tundramanq** · 27th July 12, 04:55 PM

Duke, you have described almost exactly what Steve Villegas ( now called Krash ) did in making his first MUG for himself, people kept buying them off his body or having him make them one.... Hey there is money to be made here. The rest is history. I think this bio is still on their site somewhere.

**Pleater** · 27th July 12, 05:30 PM

What I don't like is that it is obviously bits of cloth joined up.

If I make a kilt from strips joined together I make the joins where they will not be seen, but that - thing - seems to make a feature of seams.

Also, though perhaps the model was not quite the right size, the measurement at hip level seems too large. With a solid yoke the fit has to be good. It is quite common to have a yoke cut on the bias to give a better fit in women's skirts of similar design.

Could it be that the design is intended for men who are carrying a bit of weight? Cut wider at the hip and with all that interest at the front to disguise a 'podge'?

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**tundramanq** · 27th July 12, 06:21 PM

Anne, I looked at my Old school standard original UK - quite close to the pleat pattern of this one. The kilt is composed of 3 pleat panels tapered traditional kilt style hip to waist and sewn to the waist band. These beasties, being cotton poly don't hold pleat or wrinkle so all the pleat edges must be sewn. They are wash and tumble dry ( though I don't - I hang dry). As to the ill fit they sell em by waist and length alone. They fit quite loose on my hips - I think they just measured the largest can (rump) they could find and set the hip there. It does really show a lot more on the unpleated yokes than the pleat to the waist normal ones. You have sharp eyes ( with the expert brain behind). I thought it looked bad but didn't know why. I tried to find the pictures of under the apron that we got Jennevere to post on facebook when it came out. Seem missing. If I recall correctly the apron snaps close the gap between the two sides.