kilt lifters

[Uncle Ricky]

"Your man should control you better," always gets a woman steaming mad. There is no response she can give that doesn't have a better comeback.

OK Bear, I'm going to hand you this one on a platter...

What if she says she doesn't have a man?....

Then you say, "Aaahhh!" like she's just explained a great mystery. "So you're desperate!"

I knew you wouldn't disapoint me Bear.

[Hamish]

When you reach my age, you'll most likely find that no-one, and I mean no-one, will want to know what's under your kilt, let alone look!

Thanks for your comment. I thought I was all alone in the world. Never had a kilt lifting incident.

Oh, It's happened to me plenty of times in the past, Will. Just not in the past year or so

[Verlyn]

This has been a most interestig thread. I think that we also have to weigh the intent with the response. Obviously, a kilt lift of any type is inappropriate. However, in the society we now have, there is no decorum taught anymore. I think that sometimes when you mix curiosity with alcohol and subtract appropriate decorum training because we thing everthing is okay now, you get these kinds of situations. IMO, different people require different response even if it may be the same action. I've never been lifted, but have been asked. One of my sons' friends was, I think, overcome by curiosity when she asked what was under there. I put my hands on my hips and said, "And just why would you want to know, young lady". Saw that 19 year old turn forty shades of red when she realized what she had just asked. OTOH, in the Pub situation, it stikes me as alcohol induced rudeness that may take a sharper response. If at all possible, though, I think keeping our sense of humor about it will help in most, not all, but most situations. Although Bear's responses win the prize in my book.

[philibeg]

I dunno, I have to say that here in Europe people are less stressed out by nakedness and their bodies than they appear to be over the ocean. The Scots themselves love to lift up their kilts (not the apron) upon request, whole packs of em on stag weekends have ben known to comply with a pretty girls request to see their behinds...and yet throughout Europe they are beloved tourists, even the soccer fans(unlike the English supporters, whom everyoe dreads!). For the last big game between Holland and Scotland, Amsterdam was flooded by thousands of kilted Scots, and there was alot of kilt-lifting going on. I even remember there being an item on Dutch tv, on the news, about the Scots, which ended with the camera diving underneath various kilts to show that most, but not all, Scots are True Scotsmen....the Scots were more than willing to have their willies on Dutch tv and I doubt anyone here was shocked about this or even flumoxed. I guess what I am trying to get at is that a response appropriate to American mores might not fit in with the mentality over here. Similarly, European freedom might shock American sensibilities. When in Rome, I guess...

[Verlyn]

In my mind its more an issue of permission. The cases you mentioned, permission, while not explicit, was implicit and they were willing participants. In the case at the beginning of the thread, permission was neither requested nor given. Of course, you are right, there are differing attitudes depending on where you go.

[philibeg]

Yes, I agree with you that some form of pre-lifting contact ought to be made, in which the kilted can, by look, word or deed, accept or reject the proposed lift....

[KiltedHuntsman]

Q would know what to do. Something along the lines of mousetraps down near the hemline, on the inside of the kilt....

[Angus]

Q would know what to do. Something along the lines of mousetraps down near the hemline, on the inside of the kilt....

There's a joke in there somewhere about springing the trap on yourself but I'm not gonna say anything!

[Mike n NC]

All I can say to that is...OUCH!!

Mike

[Rubber Soul]

The very worst demographic by far, though, is ~14 year old girls

Being a 14 year old male, I can say that I've gotten only positive comments from females around that age group. Plenty of them at my school are trying to convince me to wear it one day, even. Funny that you've had encounters like that, it might just be our age discrepancy.