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11th December 06, 12:02 AM
#61
Here's something that relates directly to kilts. Below I have listed some Irish language terms for kilts and their accessories.
Kilt: Filleadh Beag (FILL-AY BEG)
Great Kilt/Belted Plaid: Filleadh Mhór (FILL-AY WORE)
Sporran: Sparán (SPAR-AWN)
Ghillie Brogues: Bróga Ghiolla (BROEG-A YILL-A)
Kilt Hose: Stocaí (STOCK-EE)
Argyll Jacket: Casóg Earraghaidheal (CASS-OAK ER-A-GAEL)
Prince Charlie Jacket: Casóg Phrionsa Shéarlais (CASS-OAK FRIN-SA HyARE-LISH)
Garter Flash: Gairtéar (GERT-yAIR)
Plaid Brooch: Dealg Pluid (DELL-IK PLID)
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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11th December 06, 08:57 AM
#62
I'm familiar with the history behind Clan Kincaid, but I'm unsure what the name is derived from. Can you help?
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11th December 06, 11:37 AM
#63
Originally Posted by slohairt
Dia Dhuit!
Kellett: Also Kellet, or Kellit. It's topographical in origin and apparently comes from the Old Norse 'Keldr' meaning "spring" and 'hlid' meaning "hill." The name is found in Lancashire like you said, but also in Cumbria, an area of England with a rich Celtic history. The border between Scotland and England was a pretty fluid one for many centuries. Naturally people moved back and forth. So, a Lowlands Scots origin is probably not unlikely. So, a Gaelic translation could be Cnoc Tobair (KNOCK TAWB-ER) or a Gaelic transliteration would be de Ceiléad (IRISH) or Ceileud (SCOTTISH GAELIC) Both pronounced KyELL-AID.
Hope this was helpful and not just repeating things you already know!
Very helpful. As anyone that does any kind of research you can dig around for facts but at some point you have to make assumptions to proceed. It's always nice to get a bit of confirmation on those.
Thank you for all the information you've offered in this thread. I find it fascinating.
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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11th December 06, 01:08 PM
#64
Dia Dhuit, A Smaughazard!
KINCAID This was a bit trickier than I thought it would be, but here it goes. The name is topographical in origin and very old. It was originally Pen Coed which is Brythonic Celtic (i.e. similar to Welsh) and meant head of the woods. Later, when Gaelic overtook that language of the Strathcylde Britons the name became half-translated into Gaelic as Ceann Caith (pronounced KyAN KAY). Later, of course, this was anglicised into Kincaid.
Last edited by slohairt; 6th September 07 at 06:28 PM.
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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11th December 06, 02:42 PM
#65
Thanks for the great work Slohairt!
It's interesting to know that both sides of my family were tied in with moors! I guess we like our solitude...
"Durum Patientia Frango" (By patience I break what is hard) Clan Muir Muir motto
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11th December 06, 03:08 PM
#66
here is two
Landry: French I believe
Lyons: Irish
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11th December 06, 10:47 PM
#67
Dia Dhuit, A Richland,
LANDRY Yes, Landry is a French name. That name is quite common here in Canada, especially in Québec! Occasionally, it can be a Cornish name derived from Landre meaning farm enclosure. A Gaelic transliteration of either would be de Láindridh. (Pronounced DE LAUNDRY, as in the clothes!)
LYONS Lyons is an Irish name, despite there being a French place name Lyon. Lyons can be an Anglicisation of two separate Irish surnames:
1) Ó Laighin (pronounced OH LY-IN) meaning descended from Laighean. Laighean is a personal name meaning spear.
2) Ó Liatháin (pronounced OH LEE-U-HAUN) meaning descended from Liathán. Liathán is a personal name meaning little grey one.
Last edited by slohairt; 6th September 07 at 06:33 PM.
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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12th December 06, 05:59 AM
#68
Hello Everyone!
A truly fasinating thread I must say.
Here's my inquiry: there are two names in my family that I am interested in knowing the entomology, the first is the name Murrah which is on the maternal side The other is Oard or Ord as it is currently spelled my Mother's maiden name.. The paternal name Hines I am told was anglisized from the German Heinz sometime before WWI after the family had been here for sometime by my Grandfather whose parents came to the States from Germany.
Many Thanks!
Bill
May all your blessings be the ones you want and your friends many and true.
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12th December 06, 06:05 AM
#69
Landry...
Landry: Yes, Landry is a French name. That name is quite common here in Canada, especially in Québec!
It's also quite common among the Cajuns in Louisiana.
Regards,
Todd
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12th December 06, 06:23 AM
#70
My 5xGrandfather was born in Scotland. Surname White.
My mothers name was Henry.
Clan Lamont!
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